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Looking for the PARENTS of JOSEPH GARDNER born 1842 in Alders Marston not (Holders Marston), Warwickshire. (SORRY GOT THAT wrong before,ammended now).

the 1881 census is free to search on Family Search site.
His birth may be on FreeBMD if he was regsistered

Shirley, cant find a damn thing, can you help??

Is this him?
1881
Name: Joseph Gardner
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Stockton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Occupation: Laborer At Brick Works

Registration district: Southam
Sub-registration district: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gardner 39 born: Holder Marston, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Gardner 38
Joseph Gardner 17
Mary Ann Jeffs Smith 5 - Niece


1891
Name: Joseph Gardner
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Stockton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: Labourer at the Lime Works

Registration district: Southam
Sub-registration district: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gardner 59
Elizabeth Gardner 49
Joseph Gardner 26
Mary A Smith 15

1871 England Census
Name: Joseph Garner
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Napton, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Stockton
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Southam
Sub-registration district: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Garner 31
Elizabeth Garner 27
Joseph Garner 7




Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3219; Folio: 140; Page: 7; GSU roll: 839265.

maybe -


Births Dec 1864 (>99%)
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Gardner Joseph Southam 6d 553

1891 show living Reg.Dist. Southam, so this could be a possible marriage:-

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
Bland William Southam 6d 1057
Cross Ellen Southam 6d 1057
Gardner Joseph Southam 6d 1057
Large Bessie Southam 6d 1057

which would give you his father's name, if known!

Possible 1901:-
Name: Joseph Gardner
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Bessie
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockton, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Stockton
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockton St Michael
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Southam
Sub-registration district: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gardner 35
Bessie Gardner 37
Olive Gardner 4


which show he married Bessie Large!

Possible marriage for Uncle Joseph:-

Marriages Dec 1861 (>99%)
Gardner Joseph Southam 6d 931
Smith Elizabeth Southam 6d 931

which would give you his father's name and occupation.

So, it's Uncle Joseph you're looking for?

Then you could start by buying the marriage cert. to find his father's name and occupation!

Two possible christenings on familysearch.org:-

JOSEPH GARDNER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 JUN 1841 Wasperton, Warwick, England
Father: JOB GARDNER
Mother: MARIA

JOSEPH GARDNER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 22 MAY 1843 Stratford On Avon, Warwick, England
Father: JOSEPH GARDNER
Mother: ELIZABETH
(this one is submitted)

This is the one with father Job in 1861, but I don't know if Wasperton is in the same area as Holders Marston?

Name: Joseph Gardner
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Job
Mother's Name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Wasperton, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Wasperton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Warwick
Sub-registration district: Budbrooke
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Job Gardner 62 - Ag.Lab. born: Wasperton, Warwickshire
Maria Gardner 53
Joseph Gardner 19

..............but as I said earlier his marriage cert. will confirm, or not, father's name!

1851 show another family:-

Name: Joseph Gardner
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampton Lucy, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Hampton Lucy
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Stratford On Avon
Sub-registration district: Kineton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 71
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gardner 52 - Ag.Lab. born: Hatton, Warwickshire
Mary A Gardner 50 born: Meriden, Warwickshire
George Gardner 13 born: Hampton Lucy, Warwickshire
Joseph Gardner 8

here again I don't know how close this place is to Holders Marston?

1901
Name: Joseph Gardner
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Holder Marson, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Stockton
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockton St Michael
Town: Stockton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Southam
Sub-registration district: Southam
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Gardner 60
Elizabeth Gardner 58 born: Stockton, Warwickshire
Thomas Bowyer 49 -Lodger

1911
GARDNER, Joseph Head Married M 71 1840 Nil Butler Halder Marston Warwickshire VIEW
GARDNER, Elizabeth Wife Married 50 years F 68 1843 Stockton Warwickshire VIEW
BOUGHTON, Anne Servant Single F 40 1871 Servant Domestic Harbury Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18898 Reference:
RG14PN18898 RG78PN1129 RD397 SD1 ED23 SN78

Registration District:
Southam Sub District:
Southam Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Stockton

Address:
Post Office Lane Stockton Rugby County:
Warwickshire

Married 50yrs. so married in 1861, which confirms the marriage I found!
No children!

Birth for Joseph Gardner between 1839 and 1843, Warwickshire:-

Births Sep 1839 (>99%)
Gardner Joseph Amos Banbury 16 21

Births Mar 1840 (>99%)
Gardner Joseph Stratford on Avon 16 500
Gardner Joseph Stratford on Avon 16 560

Births Jun 1841 (>99%)
Gardner Joseph Warwick 16 488

Births Jun 1843 (>99%)
GARDNER Joseph Stratford 16 485


Stratford is the reg.dist. for Long Marston and Marston Sicca, but still can't find Holders Marston ?

Catherine we know Joseph is the nephew and we know its not Holders Marston.

catherine we think it might be Job