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Hi. I am trying to find out when this chap died (about 1880-1883) or any other personal information. I have his birth and marriage details, and cencus information regarding his family, but can find no trace of a death record. Would love to know more about this man (he is a g-g-grandfather).

Scott.

Who did he marry?

Was his wife listed as a widow in 1881?

Rose

Still alive in 1881 and calling himself Samuel, as he did in 1871:

1881 England Census
about Samuel Alden
Name: Samuel Alden
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emiline Alden
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: 6 Sidney Terrace Mina Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Masons Lab

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip & St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Alden 31
Emiline Alden 25
Ethel M. Alden 3

Rose

Yes, thanks Rose; have those details; just trying to find out about his death and any personal information about his life...

scott.

Scott,

You listed 1880-1883 for his death. I was pointing out he was still alive in 1881.

Where is the family in 1891 and 1901?

Rose

I note that Emiline went to Australia in 1884. I couldn't find a record of it but found it on a tree on Ancestry. She married there in 1885 so are you sure that Joseph died or did she just leave him. It's a big move for a new widow with young children to make alone. Maybe she was going to be with Joseph who had travelled earlier and he died soon after. Can't locate a death record for him in UK under either Samuel or Joseph but it could be mistranscribed of course.

Oh yes, I should have realized that! I know he died, it must have been between 1881 and 1884 as his wife (Emmiline) and two children emmigrated to Perth, Western Australia (where I live) and she is listed as a widow. She died in Perth in 1939 I think...

Scott

Not sure if this is her re-marriage in 1933 or a daughter.

Emmeline M Redfearne
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Year: 1933
Registration Number: 706

Terence W Brennan
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Year: 1932
Registration Number: 706

Several trees on Ancestry have Violet as a daughter, but not one has the correct date for her birth.

Births Mar 1883
ALDEN Violet Emmeline Bristol 6a 40

This means Joseph/Samuel was still alive in 1882.

Rose

Looks like he went to Australia.

If you Google his name, someone called Christine has posted that he was mentioned as "abroad" in his mother's will in 1885.

You say Emmeline is listed as a widow when she arrives so perhaps he died on the journey?

Rose

Rose/Astra,

Hi Rose - I can't thank you enough!!

This has been the breakthrough I have been looking for; I have only become a member of this site a few days ago and it has already paid off, thanks to your input. I am in contact with the above lady who is also a member, and she confirms what she said on that post (in 2001).

It looks like Emmilne did leave him, because Joseph's mother, Susannah, wrote him in her will in 1885 **thanks Astra (and she did marry a Redfearne in 1885)** and there is every indication that he WAS still alive. There is no record of him coming to Perth. I am going to search far and wide for him!! Our family has always assumed that he had just 'up and died'! (a genealogy report compiled years ago states this, but they didn't have the resources we have now).

Thanks again, and I will let you know if I come up with anything...

Scott.

Well done Rose & Astra. I watched proceedings with interest.

Happy hunting, Scott.


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