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Colonel Trimnel (born in early 1800s)

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WDYTYA

WDYTYA Advisor Report 24 Feb 2013 15:47

Colonel Trimnel (not sure if it's spelt like this) fought in the Crimean War in the Battle Of Balaclava in the 1850s.

He married a woman from the Brocklesby family, possibly Dorothy.

We don't know his first name or any other information about him (regiment etc).

We have his sword at home though!

Can anyone find anything on him?

WDYTYA

WDYTYA Advisor Report 24 Feb 2013 16:05

it could be he served in India?

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Feb 2013 16:27

There is a GF Trimnell on the assistant surgeons list in Madras in 1848, he is in the THIRTY-THIRD REGIMENT NATIVE INFANTRY

East India Register & Army List 1855
TRIMNELL, G F

In 1854 he is still an assistant surgeon in Madras
"Cochin" station Nagode

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Feb 2013 16:36

Presumably the baptism for this chap

Record details

PreviousNext

Name: George Flower TRIMNELL
Event type: Birth
Date: 09 Dec
Year: 1826
Location: Baddagama, Ceylon
Parents: George Conibeere, church missionary; Sutton
Notes:
Event type: Baptism
Date: 01 Jan
Year: 1827
Location: Baddagama, Ceylon
Parents: George Conibeere, church missionary; Sutton

Another child
Name: David William TRIMNELL
Event type: Birth
Date: 26 Sep
Year: 1833
Location: Baddegama, Ceylon
Parents: Rev. George Conibeere; Sutton
Notes: Madras Asst-Surg. 1856
Event type: Baptism
Date: 10 Nov
Year: 1833
Location: Baddegama, Ceylon
Parents: Rev. George Conibeere; Sutton
Notes: Madras Asst-Surg. 1856

The second one is also an assistant surgeon, but he married someone else so you can count him out

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Record details

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Name: George Tallis Trimnell
Event type: Marriage
Start date:
Start year: 1896 - 1900
End date:
End year:
Location: Calcutta
Spouse: Amy Louise Childs
Age:
Status:
Parents:
Notes:
Transcribed by: FIBIS

The FIBIS and India Office Family history search websites are very good for India

If you put the surname into the FIBIS website, there are lots of results for you to look at

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 24 Feb 2013 16:46

Putting this from Google as the name Conibeere has been mentioned

Trimnell, George Conibere (d.1880), Anglican missionary: letter from Sri Lanka 1847.

http://janus.lib.cam.ac.uk/db/node.xsp?id=EAD%2FGBR%2F0374%2FBSAX%2F1%2FT

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Feb 2013 16:57

Erm.......different angle on my part,,,,,,

Who is Dorothy?

And the Crimean war-thin red line and all that. Wouldn't that be one of the Highland Regiments???

Take good care of that sword and maybe have an expert look at it.


Maureen
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 17:16

You could maybe send for the full Will to check details


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: George Flower Trimnell
Probate Date: 15 Sep 1884

Formally of the medical department of Her Majestys Indian Army, Madras in India, afterwards of 13 Asp;ey Terrace

£673 19s 2d


......and this one too


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: George Conibeere Trimnell (The Reverand)
Probate Date: 21 Apr 1880
Death Date: 3 Apr 1880
Death Place: Kent, England
Registry: Principal Registry

Estate under £6K

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 17:22

1871 England Census
Name: George Conibrere Trimnell
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Canterbury, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 748
Folio: 27
Page Number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
George Conibrere Trimnell 70 <<<Clergyman CoE, Widower
Mary Trimnell 43
Jane Elizabeth Trimnell 40
Charlott Rose Trimnell 30
Emily Watts 17


1841 England Census
Name: Charlotte Trimnell
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Stonham Parva
Hundred: Bosmere and Claydon
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Registration district: Bosmere
Sub-registration district: Debenham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1019
Book: 11
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
George Trimnell 41
Sutton Trimnell 38
Geoge Trimnell 14
Mary Trimnell 13
Jane Trimnell 11
Sutton Trimnell 9
David Trimnell 7
Caroline Trimnell 6
Thomas Trimnell 5
Emily Trimnell 3
Fanny Trimnell 2
Charlotte Trimnell 6 Mo
Susan Harvey 27


The birth certificate will confirm the mothers full name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlotte Rose Trimnell
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1841
Registration district: Bosmere
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 12
Page: 334





LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Feb 2013 17:28

King William's College Register ISLE OF MAN
ENTRANCES IN SEPTEMBER 1839.
Trimnell, George Flower, born Dec. 9th, 1826. Left Midsummer, 1841. Son of G. C. Trimnell, Castletown, I.O.M.

Surgeon-Major, Indian Medical Service. Died in India during mutiny.

I can't find any reference to the Crimea, I was only going with India because it was mentioned, there must be some Crimea muster rolls somewhere

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 17:33

1851 Channel Islands Census
Name: Sutton A Trimnell
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Trimnell
Gender: Female
Where born: Sri Lanka
Civil Parish or Township: St Peter Port
Town: St Peter Port
County/Island: Guernsey
Country: Channel Islands
Registration district: Guernsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Piece: 2530
Folio: 369
Page Number: 32
Household schedule number: 176
Household Members: Name Age
George Trimnell 50
Mary Trimnell 23
Jane E Trimnell 20
Sutton A Trimnell 19
William Trimnell 17
Thomas J Trimnell 75
Charlotte R Trimnell 10
Charles H Trimnell 7
Edward A Trimnell 5
Caroline Churchill 17
Emily Churchill 12
Harriet Blondel 20
Susan Blondel 13




Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 17:34

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Fanny Louisa Trimmell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 May 1839
Father's Name: Georga Comisharene Trimmell
Mother's name: Sutton Trimmell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell St George
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 17:39

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: Sutton Flower
Spouse: Geo Trimmell
Spouse Comments: p ??lington Mdx
Marriage Date: 1825
Parish: Boughton Nottinghamshire


From a verified tree

Sutton FLOWER
Birth 1802 in Boughton Nottinghamshire
Death Living
Death 24 Nov 1858 in Castle Town, Isle of Man, England

Parents David & Ann

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 17:53

1881 England Census
Name: George F. Trimmell
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny R. Trimmell
Gender: Male
Where born: Sri Lanka

Civil parish: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 13 Apsley Terrace Horn Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Deputy Surgeon General Retired Not Practising MRCSE

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 1353
Folio: 115
Page Number: 48
Household Members: Name Age

George F. Trimmell 54
Fanny R. Trimmell 49 Born Scotland
Caroline E. Trimmell 21
Fanny S. Trimmell 22
Ida G. Trimmell 12
Mary Bray 29
Harriet Kneebone 26

Children all born India

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Feb 2013 17:54

I think it would be a good idea to just STOP.

I understand,Linda- the TRI*L and BROCK*Y families seem to be firmly based in India.


Maureen

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 18:04

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Fanny Rait Trimnell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Barton Regis
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 40


Mrs NY, its not in my nature to stop!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Feb 2013 18:12

As if I haven't figured that out by now Miss NJ,

READ the original post would ya?

Maureen

Gins

Gins Report 24 Feb 2013 18:20

I have you numpty ;-)

The OP didnt know the wifes name or anything else about him

I have a very bad cold, maybe I cant read today!

Going to run head under a cold tap>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

x

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Feb 2013 18:47

Hmm

well the oldest girl on that census was baptised in India
name: Caroline Eliza Trimnell
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 11 Nov 1860
baptism/christening place: Saugor, Bengal, India
birth date: 07 Feb 1860
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: George Flower Trimnell
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Fanny Raite


The mother's name is not Brocklesby, so it is probable that this family based in India has nothing to do with the sword.

I am sure that a one time, I had a link to a site which listed soldiers in the Crimea, but I can't find it, maybe I just imagined it

The battle of balaclava was on 25th October 1854 and GF Trimnell seems to have been in India then

I don't think I can do much more until the person who asked the original question gets home and looks at the thread

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Feb 2013 19:13

I agree,Linda.

Perhaps it's a "presentation sword".

Maureen

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Feb 2013 19:25

http://archive.org/search.php?query=annual%20army%20list&page=1

Takes you to the books of Harts Army lists. the books are out of copyright and can be read on line. There is one for 1853 on the first page. There are no Trimnells in the back in the index, yet the assistant surgeons were in India at the time, They can't have been in the army
Odd though that in 1853 there are no results for Trimnell or close spelling