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BETHNAL GREEN TUBE DISASTER~3rd March 1943

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Deborah

Deborah Report 28 Mar 2009 22:48

Hi all, this is what I found originally on Loftus:

Louisa Ellen Loftus

Births Mar 1928
Loftus Louisa E Keys Bethnal G. 1c 154
Address 32 Grendon House, Shore Place, Hackney. Tube Shelter accident.
Parents:
Marriage Mar 1919

Keys Elizabeth S A Loftus Bethnal Green
1c 258

Loftus James Keys Bethnal G.
1c 258



James b 2Q 1897 Lambeth

Elizabeth b 1Q 1896 St George Hanover Sq

Possible sibling: Births Sep 1919
Loftus George Keys Bethnal G. 1c144

Births Sep 1930
Loftus John S Keys Bethnal G. 1c117 also in tube accident died same day in hospital

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 28 Mar 2009 22:27

Re: Loftus

Louisa Loftus 15 - no matches in trees (Deborah)
John Loftus 13 - "

The marriage of James Loftus and Elizabeth Keys is what the GR member has in his tree?

There's a slew of Loftus-Keys births in Mile End / Bethnal Green etc, two of which are:

Name: Louise E Loftus
Mother's Maiden Surname: Keys
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1928
Registration district: Bethnal G

>> we might want to have two entries for her, one as Louise, her proper name, and one as Louisa.

Name: John S Loftus
Mother's Maiden Surname: Keys
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1930
Registration district: Bethnal G


Those are presumably what Deborah found and are in the BGTD tree?

If the GR member's Loftus was married to Keys, it looks like they are the parents of the two Loftus victims.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 28 Mar 2009 22:21

re: Contact from Steven regarding Collett family

Blasted people don't update their account info.
I PMed Steven ages ago and he's never opened my message!!
Obviously changed his email address.

Get GMAIL ACCOUNTS, people! They're good for life!


Have updated the list on the first page to include the Lawsons found by Jeanette.



Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 28 Mar 2009 22:06

JOHN SAMUEL LOFTUS

response to PM

"Thank you for your email regarding James Loftus. As far as I know this is my relative. I have no living relatives that I can confirm this relation. I have traced him myself as I have my other relatives.

I have opened my tree to you. I have looked at your tree but there is only one name on there, so unable to to give you any further information.

Regards

Linda"


would need to check marriage of James to Elizabeth Keys to confirm the family

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 28 Mar 2009 22:02

ROSE MAUD LEGGETT NEE GABLE

Pm's sent to

Carole
Gerald
Dawn

have Thomas Gable in tree

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 28 Mar 2009 19:41

Contact from Steven regarding Collett family
Rose nee Froggett, Doreen and Ronald

Tree opened and PM sent.

"You seem to have a George Collett in your tree.
Mine is George Henry and has 7 brothers and sisters, two of whom died in the Tube Distaster with their mother.

Does this fit with your tree?
If so, please could I view your tree?

Many thanks

Steven"

Anna

Anna Report 25 Mar 2009 21:50

Hi all,

I gave Sandra (secretary of the Stairway to Heaven Memorial Trust) a copy of the list of names marked with your formidable progress. She is so impressed! She's had a couple ofpeople contact her direct so we said we'd have to collate and compare notes to see who's who. She's busy as ever and I'll be away for a couple of days so that will probably get done at the weekend.

She asked me to pass on her heartfelt thanks for all the work you're doing.

You're great. Simply great.

jansmith

jansmith Report 25 Mar 2009 15:02

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Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 23 Mar 2009 19:41

CHARLES MASON

possible contact:-

"Thank you for your email message.

i have passed it on to a Linzi who is a more direct descendant, I think, than my family.

He is in my tree via Linzi as we are 'distant cousins' because our great great great grandmothers were sisters.

Regards

Vicky "

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Mar 2009 09:25

ANTHONY W LAWSON
b Q3 1935 Poplar mmn Bigwood

PATRICIA E LAWSON
b Q2 1940 Poplar mmn Bigwood

William Lawson married Eileen A Bigwood Q3 1934 Stepney

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Bigwood Eileen A Marney Poplar 1c 960

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Bigwood Joseph R Marney Mile End 1c 718



I have pm'd GR member with Joseph Bigwood in their tree
info send to Victoria

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 22 Mar 2009 01:02

Reply from a GR member re Minnie Amelia Baker -- member is descended from a grxseveral grandfather of Minnie. She knows closer family members and will pass on info.

Victoria - if you would open the tree to Marion, who has
JohnR Sayce (1892)
in her tree?

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 22 Mar 2009 00:01

Update posted as edit of earlier bumphy post by me on front page -- it is now closer to the top of the page -- updated to read as Victoria's list a few posts back reads.

jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Mar 2009 21:16

Anthony William Lawson 7 and Patrica Eileen Lawson 3 son and daughter of William Lawson no mother s name on cwgc and cannot find a birth index for children?

Quoy

Quoy Report 21 Mar 2009 20:09

Hi Anna
did you manage to speak to the council about the fund they had set up for the victims relatives ? if not I could have a go
Quoy

Anna

Anna Report 21 Mar 2009 10:54

Hi gang! I see you're all still going formidably (yes, Evie, it's tempting to say 'great guns' but perhaps not too appropriate) and you've put me to shame those of you who've had demanding weeks at work too!

but NOW I've got more time for 2 weeks so I'll be online most of this evening if anyone wants to ask anything. I'll be attempting to collate everything, though Vicci's spreadsheet is fab and will supply almost all I need but I will record everything on here too. Still need to organise all the PMs, private emails etc.

I'm also getting some interesting info at work. Not the definate connections that you've got here but some stories surrounding it AND it looks like I've found one of the soldiers who was firing the guns that night (that frightened everyone). He's a relative of a workmate! My workmate hadn't even heard of the disaster until now and happened to mention it to his dad, who was born in Bethnal Green, then the story unfolded. Great.

Don't you just love the way that happens?

See you later.x

Deborah

Deborah Report 21 Mar 2009 08:44

Morning, I took Mason, and had two likely families on the 1911 in B.Green ( posted on thread). No contacts made.

Quoy had Newman. The marriage is not transcribed on BMD but its in the full indexes, from memory 3 or 4 Q 1920.Newman side was traceable but couldn't find wife on 1901.

regards Deborah

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 21 Mar 2009 05:11

is anyone looking at

Lawson
Mason
Newman
Thompson

????

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 21 Mar 2009 05:10

Lilian French
is anyone able to check the address to see who else was living there??? thanks

FRENCH, LILIAN
Initials: L
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 29
Date of Death: 03/03/1943
Additional information: of 73 Cyprus Street. in Tube Shelter accident.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 21 Mar 2009 05:06

tree opened and pm sent to

E P BOSWORTH nee Rudd
Sarah has Elsie Rudd of Bethnal Green in tree (maybe sister)

C CHAPMAN nee Barr
Jean has George Barr (brother?) in tree

L HAWLEY
Julie has L Hawley in tree but no place of birth so long shot!

M HAYMAN mother M QUILL
Carole has Pat Quill (brother?) and other Quill's in tree

P JOHNS
Belinda and Joyce have Irene Johns (sister?) in their trees

E HIGGINSON nee Barrett
Joan, Estella, Raymond have John Higginson in tree
Danielle has Emily Barrett in tree


re Leggett's link to Coker family, I have Coker's from Bethnal Green in my tree so have emailed Iris to see if they are related to her family

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943

Bethnal Green Disaster 1943 Report 21 Mar 2009 01:50

Evie's list with updates, perhaps you could copy and paste to the front page???

Jessie Asser nee Sharman 33 - found - 2 GR tree owners PMed by Evie

George Baker 38 - found - GR tree owner PMed by Evie
Minnie Baker 14 - "

Eileen Bass 7 (Irene Dorothy Margaret) - found, GR tree owner PM by Victoria (Quoy)

Emily Berger (Beger, Beager) 57 - possible - GR tree owner PMed by Evie

Elizabeth Bendon 38 - found - GR tree owner PMed by Evie

Irene Bosworth 17 - found, no matches in GR trees (Tracey)
Edith Bosworth 50 - (mother of above per CWGC)

Annie Boxer 24 (Knight) - found, tree owner PMed by Tracey

Henry Brooks 10 - found ???
Jessie Brooks 46 (Brown) – not related to Henry above found, tree owner PMed by Tracey

D.M. Chandler 14 - Doreen Mary - daughter of Lilian
Lilian Chandler 31 (Lankshear) - tree owner PMed by Quoy

Charlotte Chapman nee Barr 25 - no matches in trees (Jeanette)
George Chapman 23 - found, tree owner PMed byJeanette

Doreen Collett 11 - found - several tree owners PMed by Evie
Rose Collett nee Froggit 50 - "
Ronald Collett 8 - "

Patricia Court 24 (Murphy) - poss IDed, poss match PMed (Evie)

John Day 69 - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah

Annie Dongrey 22 - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah

Rusina (Rosina) Ellam 17 - contact received from GR member via hot matches
Annie Ellam 44 - "
Frances Ellam 20 - "
Pauline Ellam 2 - "

Clara Emery nee Fennell 78 - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah & Tracey

Ivy Hewitt 28 (Ewett?) (Mary Kathleen Ivy Hewitt) - prob found - tree owner PMed by Deborah

Elizabeth Fletcher nee Ridley 28
Alexander Fletcher 3 (son of Elizabeth) tree owner PMed by Victoria

Leonora Forbes 57 nee Hillman - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah
Irene Forbes 17 - (daughter of above per CWGC)

Lilian French 29 - Deborah researching also Tracey

Carole Geary 5 months - found - tree owner PMed by Quoy
Sylvia Geary 6 - found - tree owner PMed by Quoy

Joe Hales 53 - no matches in trees (Deborah)

Rhoda Hammond 44 - found - tree owner PMed by Jeanette

Leonard Hawley 64 - found - no matches in trees (Evie)

Mary Hayman 19 Quoy researching

Emily Higginson nee Barrett 62 Evie

Mary Hillier nee Mayhew 61 - poss. found, tree owner PMed by Tracey

Ivy Hiscocke (Hiscoke) 22 - found (birth surname Hook) - 2 tree owners PMed by Evie

Peter Johns 7 - found, no matches in trees (Deborah)

Estella Jones age 57 (Davies) - found, no matches in trees (Tracey)

Eliza Korobenic nee Mead 33 - found part of the Mead family ( Victoria)

Martha Land age 56 (Peck) - found, tree owners PMed by Tracey

Anthony Lawson 7 ????
Patricia Lawson 3 ????

Benjamin Leggett 31 - Janice researching
Rose Leggett nee Gable 31 “
Roy Leggett 7 “

George Lewis 10 - found - tree owners PMed by Jeanette
Lilie Lewis 14 - "

Louisa Loftus 15 - no matches in trees (Deborah)
John Loftus 13 - "

Charles Mason 50 ????

Ruby Mathers 18 - found - tree owner PMed by Jeanette

Eliza Mead 67 - group found – Anna already in contact with George Mead family
Florence Mead 35
George Mead Snr 40
Geroge Mead Jr 12
Kenneth Mead 10
Maureen Mead 4

Derek Morris 6 son of Florence – Victoria researching
Florence Morris (unmarried) 30 - “

Jeffrey Myers 6 - Victoria researching
Sophie Myers 41 - Victoria researching

Doris Newman 9 daughter of George ????
George Newman 45 ????

Sarah Newton nee taylor 28 - found - tree owner PMed by Jeanette

William Nixon 14 - found, no matches in trees (Deborah)

Rosina Papworth nee Wheeler 27 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice

Sarah Poole nee Hover 54 - - tree owner PMed Deborah

Emily Pusey nee Sears 48 - no matches in trees (Janice)
Henry Pusey 50 - "

Joseph Raolinaitis 32 (many spellings) - no family, no matches in trees (Evie)

George Reynolds 72 Tracey researching

Stella Riddell 13 - no matches in trees (Jeanette)

Bessie Roche 42 = Rhoda (Smith) Roche c1910? Evie researching
Eddie Roche 8 = Edmund Roche 1936
Joan Roche 9 = Mary J Roche 1933
Ted Roche 40 = Edmund Roche

William Herbert Sear 50 – tree owner PMed Deborah researching

Dorothy Smith 12 - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah

Rose Stretch nee Bishop 39 wife of William
William Stretch Jnr. 9 - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah
William Stretch Snr. 49 - found - tree owner PMed by Deborah

George Tarbuck 45 – Christine researching
Louisa Tarbuck nee Ward 44

Sarah Taylor 54 - found (see Newton) - tree owner PMed by Jeanette
James Taylor 12 - Jeanette researching

Kate Thompson nee ?? 53

Clara Tilbury 49 - found - 4 tree owners PMed by Jeanette

Irene Trayling nee Marshall 20 Janice researching Pm sent by Tracey

Isabella Trice nee Lazarus 39 - found - tree owner PMed by Quoy

Maud Vann 23 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice

Florence Vanner nee Rood 49 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice

Doris Warrington 16 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice

James Welch 52 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice

James Whitehead 69 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice

Edna Wilson 15 - found - tree owner PMed by Janice