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trying to find Henry George Cole born 1881 at Thrandeston, his father Robert changed the family name to King aroend the time of the 1891 census, any help as to why would be great also any info on the Cole family from Thrandeston/ Hartismere area would be most welcom

This looks like them


1891 England Census
about George K Cole
Name: George K Cole
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert H
Mother's Name: Eliza K
Gender: Male
Where born: Thrandeston, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Thrandeston
Ecclesiastical parish: Thrandeston; St Margaret
Town: Thrandeston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub-registration district: Botesdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert H Cole 42 ?Agricultural Labourer
Eliza K Cole 36
Edith K Cole 13
Robert K Cole 11
George K Cole 9
Alice K Cole 6
May K Cole 2



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1459; Folio 128; Page 3; GSU roll: 6096569.

Source Information:

Residing at MILLIS ROAD

this looks like his birth reg but names are opposite to what you have put


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about George Henry Cole
Name: George Henry Cole
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Hartismere
County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 654 (click to see others on page)

A little transcription Error


1901 England Census
about George F Ling
Name: George F Ling
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Assistant
Gender: Male
Where born: Thrandeston, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Barkway
Ecclesiastical parish: Barkway St Mary Magdalene and Reed St Mary
Town: Barkway
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Royston
Sub-registration district: Royston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Baker 45
Emily M Baker 38
Elsie A Baker 12
Charlotte M Baker 10
Charles E Baker 9
Frederick T Baker 6
Phyllis M Baker 3
Edith O Baker 11 months
Bessie S Sparrow 20
George F Ling 18
Arthur I Saunderson 18



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1292; Folio: 39; Page: 5.

Source Information:

Hi,

Tracing further back;

Name: Robert Cole
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Palgrave, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Thrandeston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Little Green
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Railway Laborer

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub-registration district: Eye
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Cole 32
Eliza Cole 26
Robert Cole 1
Florence Cole
James Boyce 25



1881 England Census
about Edith Cole
Name: Edith Cole
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Thrandeston, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Thrandeston
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address: Little Green
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub-registration district: Eye
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Boyce 59
Mary Boyce 60
Charles Boyce 34
Edith Cole 3



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)

BOYCE Eliza Hartismere 4a 859
COLE Robert Hartismere 4a 859



Let's look for a King in the family.


Dee x

1861 England Census
about Robert Cole
Name: Robert Cole
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Palgrave, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Palgrave
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub-registration district: Botesdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Henry King 51 <<<<<<<<<<<< !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ann King 50
Robert Cole 12

1851 England Census
about Robert Cole
Name: Robert Cole
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Palgrave, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Rushall
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Depwade
Sub-registration district: Harleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Cole 21 Married
Robert Cole 2
William Cole 6 Mo
James Cole 17 <<<<<<<<< bro in law

Looks like Roberts parents marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%)
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Cole Robert Hartismere 13 633
KING Elizabeth Hartismere 13 633

Looks like them in 1861, little William in 1851 was stated as being born in Rushall Norfolk, same on this census;

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth Cole
Name: Elizabeth Cole
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Diss, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Palgrave
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hartismere
Sub-registration district: Botesdale
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Cole 38 Born Langmere, Norfolk
Elizabeth Cole 31
William Cole 11
James Cole 5
Samuel Cole 3
Harriet Cole 1




So Robert born 1849 decided to revert to his mothers maiden name, why......... ????


Dee x

Struggling to see Robert born 1849 in the 1871 census,

found this though;

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Robert Cole
Name: Robert Cole
Date of Trial: 5 Jan 1866
Trial Year: 1866
Location of Trial: Suffolk, England
Sentence: 6 Cal months of hard labour
Crime: Larceny
Date of Execution or Release: See Image


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Robert Cole The Younger
Name: Robert Cole The Younger
Date of Trial: 2 Jul 1869
Trial Year: 1869
Location of Trial: Suffolk, England
Sentence: 1 year hard labour
Crime: common assault
Date of Execution or Release: See Image




Dee x

also came across this;

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Robert Cole
Name: Robert Cole
Date of Trial: 2 Feb 1881
Trial Year: 1881
Location of Trial: Norfolk, England
Sentence: Acquittal <<<<<<<<<
Crime: Night Poaching
Date of Execution or Release: See Image


There were 4 of them night poaching, James Boyce was also with them......... looks like a strong possible with the 2 names cropping up.


Dee x