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I know he lived in Ryhope in 1881 with wife Margaret who he married in 1873 and daughter Ellen b 1873 In 1882 they went to Canada where Margaret died. He came home with Ellen (my grandmother) and from what we were told sent her to an Aunt in Sunderland while he went off somewhere on his own. Have not been able to trace what happened to hom. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
Ann

Ann, to help us get a bearing on this - can you tell us who your gran married, where and when?

Also, do you know when they returned to England?

(Helps us track the right family). MC

Ah, I see from Ann's tree on Ancestry that Ellen married William Poynton in Tynemouth, in 1891.

As you say Ellen married William Poynton in Tynemouth 1891. He was born William Pointon in 1863 in Burslem Staffs. As he could not read nor write when he joined army his name was changed by whoever filled in his papers so Poynton remained. All I know is she is on the 1891 census in Cramlington. My brother can remember her telling him she was 16 when she came back to England so that would be around 1889 or so.
Thank you for your assistance
Ann

1836 dob here on the 1881 census

Edward ELLIOTT Head M Male 45 Blyth, Northumberland, England Coal Laborer
Jane ELLIOTT Wife M Female 41 Newcastle Byker
Robert B. ELLIOTT Son U Male 18 Ryhope, Durham, England Iron Manuf Iron Laborer
Edward ELLIOTT Son Male 16 Monkwmth, Durham, England Iron Manuf Iron Laborer
Elizabeth A. ELLIOTT Daur Female 14 Shotton, Durham, England General Serv
John T. ELLIOTT Son Male 12 Shotton, Durham, England Scholar
William ELLIOTT Son Male 7 Monkwmth, Durham, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 16 Horns Lane
Census Place Sunderland, Durham, England
Family History Library Film 1342204
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 5002 / 52
Page Number 15

I do not think this is the same Edward Elliott as the 1881 census I found shows him in Ryhope with his wife and my grandmother on it also his stepson George Russell. He married Margaret in 1872. Thanks all the same.

Ann ,,
Did yr Edward originally come from Sunderland ? Part of my f.tree line has Elliotts .. Edward , Jane William , George , Gabriel , and a few more - i havent got my info in front of me .. Some born Southwick - which is Monkwearmouth -- Also lived for some time in Byker Northumberland ... Do get back to me see if we can share some light on families .
Joyce .

Ann ,,
Did yr Edward originally come from Sunderland ? Part of my f.tree line has Elliotts .. Edward , Jane William , George , Gabriel , and a few more - i havent got my info in front of me .. Some born Southwick - which is Monkwearmouth -- Also lived for some time in Byker Northumberland ... Do get back to me see if we can share some light on families .
Joyce .

My Edward and his family were all born in Blyth before turning up in Hebburn in 1851. John & Catherine parentsand siblings Elizabeth John William Robert & Mary. Unless John Snr siblings were related? Will look into ti.
Ann

Hello again Ann. If I understood correctly your initial enquiry was to find out what happened to Edward Elliott. I'm just posting the 1881 that you mentioned so we can use it as a reference point:

ELLIOTT, Edward Head Married M 45 1836 Coal Miner Northumberland Northumberland
ELLIOTT, Margaret Wife Married F 49 1832 Scotland
ELLIOTT, Ellen Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Durham
RUSSELL, George Step Son Single M 22 1859 Coal Miner Durham

RG number: RG11 Piece: 4999 Folio: 78 Page: 73

Registration District: Sunderland
Sub District: South Bishop Wearmouth
Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish: Tunstall Municipal Borough:
Address: 35, Castlereagh St, Tunstall County: Durham

** So that confirms birthplace and year.

Is this chap a possible in 1891? - Seghill's not a kick of the bum from Blyth.

ELLIOTT, Edward Head Married M 53 1838 Coal Miner Seghill Northumberland
ELLIOTT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1852 Houghton Co Durham
ROBINSON, Richard Son M 16 1875 Coal Miner Sunderland Co Durham
ROBINSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 14 1877 Sunderland Co Durham
ROBINSON, William Son M 12 1879 Sunderland Co Durham
ROBINSON, George Son M 8 1883 Easington Co Durham

RG number: RG12 Piece: 4112 Folio: 50 Page: 19

Registration District: Easington Sub District: Easington Enumeration District: 27
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church New Seaham

Civil Parish: Seaham Municipal Borough:
Address: 31, Viceroy Street, Seaham, New Seaham
County: Durham

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1889
ELLIOTT Edward Sunderland 10a 973
Robinson Elizabeth Sunderland 10a 973

Thanks for this. It is looking as though he came back and remarried then according to the 1901 census he has another son George about 1891. It would be great if somehow I could contact someone from his second family to verify this. He must have forgotten about hs daughte Ellen. I am really enjoying being able to get help with my queries from helpful people.

Ann

Hi Ann - pleasure to help. I live not too far from Seghill!

I'd recommend getting a copy of that 1889 marriage certificate to check the details and see if it matches the parents, occupation etc that you already have for your Edward. MC

just in case you haven't got it here's Ellen on 1911 census

Person: POYNTON, Ellen
Address: Blue Row Seghill Northd

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

POYNTON, William Head Married M 44 1867 Colliery Deputy Overman Haremets Wood Near Birslem Stafford
POYNTON, Ellen Wife Married 19 years F 36 1875 Ryhope C Durham
POYNTON, Margaret Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cramlington Northumber
POYNTON, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 15 1896 Seghill Northumber
POYNTON, Paulina Daughter F 13 1898 School Seghill Northumber
POYNTON, Lovina Daughter F 11 1900 School Seghill Northumber
POYNTON, Leonard Son M 8 1903 Seghill Northumber
POYNTON, Gladys Daughter F 6 1905 Seghill Northumber
POYNTON, William Son M 3 1908 Seghill Northumber
POYNTON, Winnifred Daughter F 1 1910 Seghill Northumber

Yes I have the 1911 census the last birth on it is my mother. I also do not live that far from Seghill and used to visit it a lot when my grandmother was alive. She died in Stanley Gardens. I am really getting into this now. As you suggest I willk look up marriage certificate. Do I have to request a copy or can I do it on line?
Ann

Hello Ann, you can order certificates online from GRO at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ and they cost £9.25 (inc postage).

You'll see in the marriage I posted above that it has the necessary references.

Hello Ann

I can't help with the Elliott side of the family but I have details of William Pointon (Poynton) and his ancestors in the Staffordshire area if you want them.

Joan

Yes please
Ann