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Can anyone help me, this is the family on the Census of 1881.

Joseph Morgan Head Married 29 Collier b.
Mary Morgan wife 23 born Cwmbran
James son 6 scholar, b Cwmbran
Eliza Daughter 4 scholar b. Cwmbran
Emily Daughter 3 scholar, b Cwmbran
John Son 1 b. Cwmbran

The family were living at 62, Clifton Street, Roath, Cardiff.

How do I go about tracing Joseph Morgan on the 1871 census, he would be about 19. I have put his name and birth date( c.1851) plus where he was born (Cwmbran)and it shows nothing in the census of 1871. He may not have been married then, but no one is listed that I can tally up any details with. I have been looking on Findmy past website. He was on the 1881 census as married.

Try to find the marriage first - Do you have any details on his wife's maiden name?

Dea x

Dea, all I know that she was called Mary no maiden name.

Pauline

1871 Census - this one looks a reasonable bet?

Name: Joseph Morgan
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Betsy
Gender: Male
Where born: Henllis, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Upper Llanfrechva
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Pontypool
Sub registration district: Llangibby
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Morgan 57
George Morgan 22
Joseph Morgan 20
William Morgan 15



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5337; Folio: 52; Page: 1; GSU roll: 848442.

Source Information:

Dea x

Dea,

You are a star, I think that yes this is the family, how do you get this information so quickly, although I have been researching my tree for 2 yrs on and off, I still find it difficult, perhaps its old age, I am a silver surfer.....
Thank you so much.
cheers, Pauline in Spain

Dea,

Did you send me a reply which has been deleted by the administrator if so why do they do that.

Yo soy 'silver surfer' tambien !!

Anyway - It wasn''t me who deleted I don't know what that was about.

I will have a look for the marriage but there are quite a few to choose from - A birth cert for one of the children would give you both parent's fathers and you can go with more certainty from there.

Do you have the references or do you need me to have a look?

Dea x

Dea, Please could you look for me please.

It is very difficult, my Mother was born Edna Morgan at 12 Tin Street Cardiff in 1920 also a sister Winifred born 1923 but their Father William Morgan was never married to her Mother Mabel Hooper she was already married. Talk about a scandal ....(Mabel married again in 1926) I have traced the family of Morgans from this address search on the census of 1901, what I am trying to do is establish the family.

My mother did not remember her father William, mom was born in 1920. I do not know what happened to William on her birth cert is states that he was a Blacksmiths striker (ex army). He would have been my grandfather so it would be fantastic to find out what happened to him, did he die, or marry, who knows I have tried to find him on death certs but there are so many William Morgans. I hope I have not confused you.

Saludo Pauline.

ps. forgot to mention, your Spanish is great.

Pauline.

So, I have got a little lost here - before I start in the wrong direction - where does the Joseph, Mary Morgan + family that you started off with fit in with the Edna, Winifred, William Morgan + Mabel Hooper that you have just mentioned?

Dea x

William was a later son born to Joseph & Mary. On the 1901 census the family were living at 12, Tin St.
Joseph 50
Mary, 43
Edith, 18
James, 16
Mabel, 12
Florence, 9
William, 7
Albert. 5

Eliza was married. It is definately the same family.

Lo siento por la confusión.
Pauline

de nada.

Voy a buscar!

Dea x

Dea,

I have to go now, I am in the office, will connect to genes again in 20 mins.

Hasta luego.

There is not much info on here but you might like to look at William's Army Pension record on Ancestry?

William Morgan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Age at enlistment: 21
RESIDENCE: 12 Terr Street, Cardiff
Document Year: 1915
Regimental number: 167
Number of Images: 3

I will see if I can find more after dinner.

Dea x

Well that WAS a 'Spanish' 20 minutes' !!!!!!!!!! (Tee hee!).

Have to go now but will be back tomorrow - will see what more I can find?

Dea x

Hi Dea,

Sorry for delay, computer out of action, telefonica have now sorted it. I expect it is too late now for you, but will be on the boards tomorrow around 10pm your time.

cheers Pauline