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Please could someone look up Edith Hannah Smith for me, she was born in Millom Cumbria, would have been Cumberland then, in 1885, she was baptised on the 17-4-1885, thank you, Wayne.

Hi Wayne. I think I have found this.
Dont be mislead and think that this is Bootle. Liverpool. It is not.

Edith Smith born. 1885. April/June Qtr. registered in BOOTLE Cumberland, now covered under Millom or Workington. Copy of certificate will give you parents and you can then confirm or deny the family on the 1891 census.

John Robinson Smith. 29. Born Maryport.Cumb
Ann. 24. Born Workington
Edith H. 6 Born Keswick.
William A 4 Born Workington
Mary J 2 Born Workington.

If correct then a search can be made on other census records and for the marriage of John and AAnn.

Hope this helps. Ethel.

Thank you Ethel this is a great help, thank you very much, Wayne.

This looked like her alright in 1901, but i've just done a search of the IGI and that says Edith Hannah Smith was christened at the Holy Trinity church in Millom on the 17-4-1885, her mother is Elizabeth Hannah Smith, no mention of the father. This is very confusing as i wouldn't have thought there would be 2 Edith Hannah's in the same area, born at the same time, do you think this is possible?
p.s. i'm not doubting your information it's just confusing, regards, Wayne.

Hi Wayne. I think the birth is correct. maybe not the 1891 census. The Millom baptism also ties in with the Bootle details. I have just looked on the atlas and Bootle is quite near Millom. Copy of the birth certificate is the best thing. Ethel.

Hi ayne. Been having another look at this and found the following.

1881 census. Bootle dist of Cumberland.
John Smith. 67. 1814. Born Whitbeck. Cumb. LKiving Millom
Hannah. 57. 1824. Born Millom
Elizabeth 18. Single. 1863 Born Millom
Jane. 16. Single. 1865 born Millom
Hannah 12. 1869. Single. Born Millom

1891 census
2 Park Cottages. Kingsland Road. Millom. (Bootle)
Hannah Smith. Widow. 67. 1824. Born Millom
Elizabeth Day. Married. 28. 1863. Born Millom
Barker Smith. S In Law. 42 1849. Born Millom
John Smith. Grandson. 11 1880. Born Millom
Edith Smith. G Dau. 6 1885. Born Millom.

I cannot say if Elizabeth was married to Barker. The only marriage I can find for a Barker Smith is to either Mary Hannah Faber/Feber or Ellen Thomas.
1871 Oct/Dec Qtr. reg in Todmorden. Lancs. vol 9a 380.

I think this is the right family. Birth cert for Edith gets more necessary to sort the relationships out. Let me know what you think.Ethel.

This looks like a possible for Edith in 1901.

LL

1901 England Census
about Edith Smith
Name: Edith Smith
[Edith Tyson]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Barker
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Millom, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Millom
Ecclesiastical parish: Millom Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bootle (Cumberland)
Sub registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 142
Household Members:
Name Age
Edith Smith 16
Hannah Smith 76
John Smith 21
Barker Tyson 45
Elizabeth Tyson 37
Lilian Tyson 1

This looks like Barker Tyson's marriage to Elizabeth Hannah Smith.

LL

Marriages Mar 1888
Forrest Agnes Jane Bootle 10b 820 Scan available - click to view
SHARDLOW Frederick Bailey Bootle 10b 820 Scan available - click to view
>>>SMITH Elizabeth Hannah Bootle 10b 820 Scan available - click to view
>>>Tyson Barker Bootle 10b 820

Thank you Ethel you're help is much appreciated, this looks like them alright but some of the surnames are a bit mixed up, that's strange, i wonder why that is?

Thank you LL, it becomes clearer in the 1901 census who is who, thank you both very much, Wayne.

Isn't it strange though how Edith is called Smith and not Tyson? Do you think that Barker is not her father and Edith was born out of wedlock?

Wayne,

Elizabeth and Barker didn't marry until 1888, so it appears Edith was born to an unmarried Elizabeth.

LL

Wayne,

This is Edith's birth, if you order the certificate (cost £7 from the GRO) it MAY name her father.

LL

Births Jun 1885
Smith Edith Hannah Bootle 10b 699

Thank you again LL, would her father be named in the parish register do you think? I have the film.

Wayne,

He may be, certainly worth checking.

LL

Thank you you've been brilliant.

You are more than welcome.

LL