Find Ancestors

I'm trying to find Thomas Smith who was born around 1865 and married Alice Thomas in 1887 in West Derby. He may have lived in Whiston before this. He was a blacksmith. Unfortunately I cannot find any trace of him and there was very little known of him in the family.
If anyone can offer any help it would be great!

this one?

THOMAS SMITH
Marriages:
Spouse: ALICE THOMAS Family
Marriage: 30 MAY 1887 Saint Mary, Edge Hill, Lancashire, England

you probably need the marriage certificate to find his fathers name to help identify him in previous census returns

Marriages Jun 1887
Smith Thomas West Derby 8b 515
Thomas Alice W. Derby 8b 515

I wonder if this is him in Whiston with his grandparents in 1891. Wife not with him.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SMITH, Thomas Head Married M 71 1820 Living On Own Means
Little Neston
Cheshire
SMITH, Jane Wife Married F 71 1820
Little Neston
Cheshire
SMITH, Thomas Grandson Married M 26 1865 Blacksmith
Manchester
Lancashire
SMITH, Harriet Granddaughter Single F 8 1883 Scholar
Whiston
Lancashire

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3015 Folio:
63 Page:
29

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
Prescot EnumerationDistrict:
3 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Nicholas

Civil Parish:
Whiston Municipal Borough:
Prescot Address:
Platts Bridge, Whiston, Prescot County:
Lancashire

Yes I found that entry in Whiston and it would make sense because Alice was in Whiston too at age 11. I do have the marriage certificate and his father was also Thomas Smith but I've tried to find him and cannot and I've tried to find Thomas after the marriage but cannot. The age of Alice has been changed on the marriage cert to age her but the date has been written over to say 1886 which makes me think she may have been pregnant but I cannot find a child. She had my G/grandfather in 1892/3 in Fenton, Staffs but I cannot find Thomas???

have you got this one as well
1881

Thomas SMITH Head M Male 61 Neston, Cheshire, England Coalminer
Jane SMITH Wife M Female 61 Neston, Cheshire, England
Hannah M. SMITH Daur U Female 21 Whiston, Lancashire, England No Occupation
Sarah SMITH Daur U Female 15 Whiston, Lancashire, England No Occupation
Thomas SMITH Grand Son U Male 16 Manchester, Lancashire, England Blacksmith
Elizabeth SMITH Grand Daur U Female 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England No Occupation

Source Information:
Dwelling Pottery Lane
Census Place Whiston, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341892
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3728 / 84
Page Number 12

No I hadn't found that one, thanks.
The story told to my grandmother when she was a little girl by Alice was that she'd had a daughter who was taken to America by her father. My Nan always assumed this was Thomas Smith but I cannot find any evidence of this. I wonder if it was just a story to skim over the truth. But I cannot find Thomas after 1991 census.

could this be Thomas's death

Name: Thomas Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 34
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 356

So that would imply he went back to West Derby after the 1891 census when he is with his grandparents, assuming this is the same Thomas. I wonder if he had family in West Derby? But if he does die before the 1901 census I'm not going to find out if it is him or if he had a daughter with Alice. Any ideas what I can try next?