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I am looking for the address, parentage and siblings of Samuel Smith born in Darlaston abt 1847..
He later went on to marry Mary Ann in 1872.
Thanks for your help
Best Regards
Bernie

Possible from 1851 census

1851 England Census
about Samuel Smith
Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 35 Tailor born Shifnal, Shropshire
Sarah Smith 38 born West Bromwich
Eliza Smith 10
William Smith 8
Samuel Smith 4
Susannah Smith 2
Thomas Smith 4 Mo
Fredrick Smith 15

Address looks like Catherines Cross


Andy

Thanks Andy!

Two possible marriages:-

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1872
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
SMITH Samuel NAYLOR Mary A Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/12/243

and

1872
MILLS John Wolverhampton 6b 673
Palmer Hannah Wolverhampton 6b 673
Smith Samuel Wolverhampton 6b 673
WOOTTON Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 673

If you know which is the correct one, it will give you his fathers name and occupation so you can confirm any census findings!!

2 Possible marraige

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)
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Smith Samuel Wolverhampton 6b 673
WOOTTON Mary Ann Wolverhampton 6b 673


or



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
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Naylor Mary Ann Dudley 6c 178
Smith Samuel Dudley 6c 178


The correct one should confirm his fathers name and occupation

Andy

Possibly him in 1871?:-
Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: Darlaston
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 128 Hampden Lane

Occupation: Bolt Forger

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Green 68
John Green 12
Mary A Green 17
Samuel Smith 23
William Blakemore 21

Interesting to note that daughter of the house is Mary A.? May just be a coincidence of course!!

There are 2 Samuel Smiths born Darlaston in census records, both married to Mary Ann, so be careful. If you know the children that your Samuel and Mary had, try to find a birth and obtain the cert to find out Mary's maiden name

Andy

Two possible marriage records and two possible 1881 records.:-

Samuel Smith Mary Ann abt 1848 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Harborne, Staffordshire


Samuel Smith Mary Ann abt 1850 Darlaston, Staffordshire, England Head Darlaston, Staffordshire


The first one is the same as the one in 1871 census:-
Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Harborne
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: No 39 Grove Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Nut Forger

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Smith 33
Mary Ann Smith 29 born: Darlaston, Staffordshire
Enoch Smith 8
Samuel Smith 6
John W. Smith 3

Oh no, don't go too quickly!! Now there's a really big coincidence, second Samuel has nearly the same occupation, only one is Nut and the other Bolt Forger:-

Name: Samuel Smith
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 91 The Green
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Bolt Forger

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Smith 31
Mary Ann Smith 31
George Smith 7
Sarah Smith 5
Thomas Smith 2
James Smith

Here is one of those marriages from IGI with Samuel's fathers name on it if that helps at all.

Samuel Smith Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: John Smith Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: Mary Ann Wootton Family
Marriage: 07 JUL 1872 Bilston, Stafford, England

Hi
Thanks all
It's definately Mary Ann Wootton, I have certificate. They did live at 39 Grove Lane.
I wanted the address of Samuel as a child when he lived with his parents John and Sarah nee Grice(?) in Darlaston, if anyone can help

Best Regards
Bernie

In that case it looks like the family that I first posted from 1851 census

The other Samuel (2 more) hace parents Samuel/Elizabeth and Thomas/Mary

Andy

Andy

Bernadine,
Why ask for parentage if you already knew that his parents were John and Sarah Grice?
If you had posted all that info in the first place it would have saved a lot of time!
Next time could you give as much info as possible please!
Regards
Catherine

Looks like them in 1841:-
Name: John Smith
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Darlaston
Hundred: South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Catherine ?

Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Walsall
Sub registration district: Darlaston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Smith 20
Sarah Smith 25
Susannah Smith 2
Eliza Smith 7 Mo

Apologies to all who feel 'put out'...
I had totally removed my tree to make ammendments to it, as I had gone up the wrong path. I have put all info on a family tree maker programme that I can hardly understand, and I am trying to make sure the information I have is correct before I make the same mistakes again. I also wanted to find the address of where Samuel Smith 1847 was born in Darlaston and the address of parents John Smith and Sarah nee Grice(?).

I have been doing this for several hours, so I am a little glazed over.

Checked 1851 census for age of Susannah and is definately 2yrs. so first Susannah may have died between 1841 and 1851?

The Frederick Smith in same census is a Cousin and is working as a Tailors Apprentice.

Thanks all time for a break
regards

John and Sarah's wedding ??

John Tebley Smith Pedigree
Male Family
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Parents:
Father: John Smith Family
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Marriages:
Spouse: Sarah Greaves Family
Marriage: 14 JUN 1849 , Stafford, England
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

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If that is the wedding at least you have a middle name for John Smith. I noticed when you put Sarah Grice you put ?? after the name.

If that is the wedding at least you have a middle name for John Smith. I noticed when you put Sarah Grice you put ?? after the name.

Sarah Greaves Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 14 JUN 1849 , Stafford, England
Death:
Burial:



Father: Robert Greaves