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Flory H. and Sarah F. Smith

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Shelagh

Shelagh Report 11 Apr 2009 15:27

Tying to find twin sisters born 1878 in Sheffield.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 11 Apr 2009 15:31

Hi,

What info are you looking for???


1881 England Census
about Flory H. Smith
Name: Flory H. Smith
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Waggon & Horses Inn
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 57
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Smith 34
Mary A. Smith 39
Jessie E. Smith 10
Flory H. Smith 3
Sarah F. Smith 3
Ruth E. Thorpe 21
John H. Wainwright 18


Dee x

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Apr 2009 16:09

1891 England Census
Name: Sarah F Smith
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Ecclesall, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Ecclesall
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Thorpe 63
Ruth E Thorpe 31
Lottie D Thorpe 7
Charles A Wright 27
Charlotte Thorpe 27
Sarah F Smith 13


No sign of Flory H. Still looking for Henry and Mary A.

Cannot find birth record for either twin (?).

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Apr 2009 16:11

In 1891 Sarah F. seems to be a boarder in the home of Mary Thorpe who also has her daughter Ruth Thorpe living with her. Ruth is 31 born Chesterfield, Derby, the same Ruth living with the Smith family in 1881.

Janet

Janet Report 11 Apr 2009 17:05

Hi Shelagh
Presume that Mary Ann Smith (mother)died aged 47 June 1889 9c 193
Henry Smith (father)died Sept 1882 aged 35 9c 198 so that the children were looked after with others.Have found a Sarah Francis Smith born Dec 1877 9c 349 do you know what Sarah's middle name was. Just wondering whether someone mixed up the two names thinking there was just the one birth.JLe

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Apr 2009 17:48

That certainly looks liker her, Janet. She was Sarah F. on both censuses. However there was no other Smith with same page number so I'm sure she wasn't a twin. There is a Florence Augusta, same place, same quarter but not on same page and our Flory had middle initial H.

BTW: Frances-female, Francis-male. I always remember it by thinking of the letter i representing a certain male organ. (Am I allowed to say that on GR?)

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Apr 2009 18:08

Margaret,

I always remember it by Francis (his) as opposed to her.

Wilma

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Apr 2009 18:11

Oh, that's a bit more genteel than my way, Wilma!

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Apr 2009 18:20

Found this - what do you think?

Deaths Jun 1892 (>99%)
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Smith Florence Augusta 14 Ecclesall B. 9c 216

Shelagh

Shelagh Report 11 Apr 2009 19:31

Thank you ladies for all the info. What a puzzle.
I am going to try and find a marriage for Sarah F.
Shelagh

Shelagh

Shelagh Report 11 Apr 2009 23:00

Hi I think I have cracked it ,thanks to you all.
Flory H must be Florence Augusta, same birth as Sarah Frances.
I reckoned that their mother's maiden name was Shale and lo and behold ,where was Florence living in 1891? With the Shale grandparents in Wolverhampton.

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Apr 2009 23:07

You're welcome

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Apr 2009 23:30

This must be their marriage then?

Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
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Hill Elizabeth Eccleshall B. 9c 296
JOWETT John Ecclesall B 9c 296
Shale Mary Ann Ecclesall 9c 296
Shales Mary Ann Ecclesall 9c 296
Smith Henry Ecclesall B. 9c 296

Shelagh

Shelagh Report 12 Apr 2009 13:20

That's it! Clever you, I was not looking before 1870!