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Trying to find Henry and Katherine SmithThere my G Grandparents Katherines maidain name was White her fathers name was Thomas John White Henry smith s father was isaac smith. Henry and Katherine were the parents of Charles Smith who was my grandfather. They married in leamington warwick in warwickshire in 1883. I have traced them upuntill there marage in 1883 but cannot go any further they are not on any census that i can find and believe me i have looked at most . they must have moved somwere in warwickshire . please can anybody help. Been looking now for months i know its a lot to ask with a name like smith but please sombody out there might know were to look i have allmost given up hope.

regards mary.

When was your G/Dad born as you don't say

My grandad Charles was born in leamington warwick in 1883 dec

Mary

Do you have their M/C...If yes what was Katherine age and her dads occupation

I can't see them on the census together so might be best to go back a few

Well i can tell you my charles was bor at 7 Moss street leamington could they be the same person?
regards mary.

The 1891 Census


1891 England Census
about Charles H Smith
Name: Charles H Smith
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henery
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Leamington, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Stoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke St Mary
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
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Household Members: Name Age
Henery Smith 34
Catherine Smith 36
John Smith 11
Charles H Smith 7
Frederick E Smith 4


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1891 England Census
about Charles H Smith
Name: Charles H Smith
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henery
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Leamington, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Stoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke St Mary
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henery Smith 34 b Maldon, Essex, able seaman
Catherine Smith 36 b Kennilworth, Warwickshire
John Smith 11 b Claton, Yorkshire
Charles H Smith 7
Frederick E Smith 4 b Leamington

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Liz

1901 England Census
about Charles M Smith
Name: Charles M Smith ( initial is H on image)
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Leamington, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: Ipswich Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Smith 44
Catherine Smith 46
Charles M Smith 17
Daisy M Smith 8


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Dont have there M/C so cant give much info but was told Katherine was born AB 1861 but dont know were . all i can say is after her marriage to henry she stayed with her uncle david White at 7 Moss Street leamington to give birth to my Grandad Charles smith then i cant trace were they whent after that.
regards mary.

1861 England Census
about Henry Smith
Name: Henry Smith
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Isaac
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Hatfield Peverl, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Hatfield Peverel
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Witham
Sub registration district: Witham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
Isaac Smith 29 ag lab
Catherine Smith 23
Henry Smith 4
John Smith 1

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1861 England Census
about Catherine White
Name: Catherine White
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John T
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Female
Where born: Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Coventry Holy Trinity
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Coventry
Sub registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members:
Name Age
John T White 35 bStoneleigh, cordwainer
Harriet White 40
Martha L White 7
Catherine White 6
Ann W White 2
William H White 4
Mary White 6 Mo

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If it was me i would get the M/C to get Katherine & Henry's age especially as the surname is Smith

It will give you both their ages & their dads occupation

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
JENKINS Frederick Warwick 6d 807
PAGE Maria Elizabeth Warwick 6d 807
>>>>>Smith Henry Warwick 6d 807
>>>>White Katherine Warwick 6d 807

Possible for Catherine, She has a son, John, who could be the one in the 1891 census.


1881 England Census
about Catherine White
Name: Catherine White
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Warwick St Nicholas
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address: "Warwick Union Workhouse" The Packmores
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Servant Domestic

Registration district: Warwick
Sub registration district: Warwick
ED, institution, or vessel: Warwick Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Jones 45
John Brady 86
Richd. Edwards 61
James Harwood 44
Wm. Lamprey 15
Henry Dignan 13
Henry Judd 62
Richard Wells 72
John Price 65
George Redmond 69
Eustace Rufus 69
Thomas Pavier 33
John Yeomans 36
Isaac Timms 67
John Fitzpatrick 65
Thomas Young 78
George Hobbins 59
Edwin Swann 48
Wm. Hassatt 18
Sarah Roberts 63
Jane Hart 86
>>Catherine White 26
>>John White 1 b Leeds, Yorkshire
Amy Vain 13
Amy Sabin 13
John T. Sabin 6
Saml. Warner 12
Emily Lerway 6
John Brennan 5
Charles Newman 4
Percy Newman 2
Alfred Hydon 3
Albert Hirons 3
Edwd. Douglass 1
Elizth. Stewart 76
Hannah Harwood 82
Elizth. Bunting 73
Mary Riley 46
Mary Grant 78
Mary Walker 77
Elizth. Bull 79
Hannah Read 76
Rose Ann Dawson 84
Sarah Middleton 93
Bertha Reading 15
Charlotte Bromwich 74
Ann Payne 44
Fanny Wheeler 38
Eliza Nicholls 70
Mary Wilkins 64
Hannah Jeacock 43
Elizth. Wood 78
Mary Askew 38
Fanny Wright 23

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1871 England Census
about Catherine White
Name: Catherine White
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Kenilworth, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Bulkington
Ecclesiastical parish: Ryton
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Nuneaton
Sub registration district: Nuneaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Household Members:
Name Age
John Witherington 34
Mary Hancock 34
Catherine White 16
Arthur Nixon 17
William Rollason 36

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To the kind people who have replied. I do know that at no time did henry or katherine move from warwickshire But charles there son traveled on the barges at a very early age and worked his way down to Suffolk were he met with my grandma and they married here in Ipswich Suffolk were they both died I have got all the info on charles from family before they died.But know nothing else ecept Henry and Katherine stayed in Warwickshire all there lives.
regards mary.

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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Smith Phyliss M White Rugby 6d 1172

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Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Smith Elsie M White Nuneaton 6d 872
SMITH Sidney E White Birmingham 6d 108


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Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Smith Esther White Aston 6d 463

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Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
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Smith George L White Nuneaton 6d 1280
Smith Maud M White Meriden 6d 1204
Smith Vera D White Rugby 6d 1555

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Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
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SMITH Ellen M White Meriden 6d 1252

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Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
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Smith Frederick W White Rugby 6d 1684
Smith Lily White Aston 6d 876

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Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Smith Hilda White Aston 6d 853
Smith Leonard White Birmingham 6d 381

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Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
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Smith Ivy L White Nuneaton 6d 1245

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Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Smith George A C White Lutterworth 7a 3
Smith Lily W White Rugby 6d 1373

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Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Smith Ivy White Aston 6d 738

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Births Dec 1918 (98%)
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Smith Elfred E White Lutterworth 7a 9

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Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
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Smith Dorothy J White Aston 6d 584
Smith Irene M White Meriden 6d 825

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Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
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Smith Dorothy E White Rugby 6d 1662

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Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Smith Frank E White Tamworth 6b 798

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Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
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Smith Ronald A White Nuneaton 6d 1221

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Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
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Smith Alfred T White Birmingham 6d 415
Smith Dorothy White Aston 6d 828

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Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
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Smith Mildred P White Rugby 6d 1219

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Births Jun 1923 (>99%)
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Smith Desmond G White Nuneaton 6d 1140

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Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
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SMITH Estella D White Rugby 6d 1293

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Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
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Smith Millicent E White Lutterworth 7a 1
Smith Reginald J White Aston 6d 701

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Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Smith Maureen A White Stratford 6d 1387
Smith Myra K White Stratford 6d 1387

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Births Sep 1924 (>99%)
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Smith Edna L White Birmingham N. 6d 895
Smith Rose A White Tamworth 6b 748

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Births Sep 1925 (>99%)
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Smith Philip J E White Rugby 6d 1268

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Births Mar 1926 (>99%)
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Smith Edith C White Birmingham N. 6d 600
Smith Marian I White Birmingham N. 6d 564

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Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
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Smith Pamela H White Stratford 6d 1401
Smith Peter N White Stratford 6d 1401

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Births Mar 1928 (>99%)
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Smith Dorothy M White Birmingham N. 6d 525
Smith Mary C White Birmingham S. 6d 242

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Births Sep 1928 (>99%)
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SMITH Harry E White Warwick 6d 1255

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Births Mar 1929 (>99%)
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Ranbling Rose
Looks like it could be same people I have henry and katherine marriage cert and charles there son birth cert thats why iam so shaw of name spelling and dates.
regards mary.

How strange cos your post at 20:52 you say you don't have their M/C see below

Mary Today at 20:52 Request review
Dont have there M/C so cant give much info but was told Katherine was born AB 1861 but dont know were

Have just seen your PM

From the M/C what was Katherine & Henry's age

And what was their Dads Occupations

Whole new thread started, no mention of this one ...

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