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james smith was born in 1837 and married a Harriet who was born in 1842 both are from hereford way but cant seem to find out who his parents where! if any one has any info that could help i would be very gratefull

POSS BIRTH
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1837 (>99%)
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Smith James Kingston 26 117

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Births Dec 1837 (>99%)
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SMITH James Tendbury 12 189

Name: James Smith
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 4 Jun 1837
Christening Place: Walford, Herefordshire, England
Father's Name: Samuel Smith
Mother's Name: Maria

Births Sep 1837 (>99%)
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Smith James Kingston 26 117


thanks starr1 that one sounds about right :)

Which census have you actually got them on ?

Sandra, this will be a very long shot.

Have you found James & Harriet on a census to verify their place of birth? They may have lived down Hereford way, but may not mean they were born there.

Do you have Harriet's surname or any of their children's dates & places of birth? It's a good idea to check these out before spending money on certificates.

Ozi

sorry only just started this recently but the census i was looking at was the 1881 for james and harriet. Am just trying to make sence of what i see, soz if i am confusing you

harriet was broadheath hereford and james was kington hereford

Don't worry you're not confusing us. I'm just concerned you may spend money on the wrong certificates.

Is this the census you mean?

1881 Wales Census
Name: James Smith
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Kington, Hereford, England
Civil parish: Llanvihangel Llantarnam
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: Cwmnant
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Labourer Iron Works
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: St Woollos
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James Smith 44
Harriet Smith 39
Thos. Valentine Smith 22 - labourer Iron Works; born Dudley, Staffordshire
Mary Jane Smith 17 - Kington, Hereford
Matilda Smith 14 - Kington, Hereford
James Smith 13 - Smethwick, Staffordshire
Allice Smith 9 - Spon Lane, Staffordshire
Edward Smith 7 - Cwmbran, Monmouth

Here he is in 1871:

1871 Wales Census
Name: James Smith
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Wartbromwick, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Llantarnam
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: St Woollos
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 78
Household Members:
Name Age
James Smith 40 - labourer in forge
Harriet Smith 29 - born Wartbromwick, Staffordshire
Thomas Smith 14 - labourer in forge; born Hereford
Sarah Ann Smith 10 - born Walbromwick, Staffordshire
Matilda Smith 7 - born Walbromwick, Staffordshire
Mary Jane Smith 4 - born Walbromwick, Staffordshire
Alice Smith 1 month
James Smith 3 - born Kington, Hereford

Address: Greenwood Hills [I think, the last word is a bit of a scribble]

Here is Harriet as a widow with her younger children in 1891:

1891 Wales Census
Name: Harriet Smith
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bponlane, Staffordshire, England [actually Broadheath, Hereford on image]
Civil parish: Llantarnam
Ecclesiastical parish: Llantarnam
Town: Cwmbran
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Newport
Sub-registration district: St Woollos
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Smith 58
James Smith 22 - fireman; Sponlane, Staffordshire
Alice Smith 19 - Tin worker; Sponlane, Staffordshire
Edward Smith 16 - Iron Works; Llanfrechfa, Monmouthshire
James James 5 - grandson; Llantarnam, Monmouthshire

I've transcribed Edward and James James's birthplaces as per the image. There is an error on Ancestry. Sponlane or Spon Lane is in West Bromwich & I think that is what Wartbromwick & Walbromwick actually should be in 1871 though that is not what is on the image.

Ozi.

Deaths Sep 1882
Smith James 46 Monmouth 11a 14

This is a possibility for his death but that's not going to help you find his parents.

Have you found his marriage to Harriet at all?

Ozi.

I cannot find James's marriage to Harriet or him on a census before 1871. I know it is not an unusual name but we should be able to find Thomas Valentine Smith.

Ozi.