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Sharon
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8 Nov 2009 12:02 |
Any information on my Pa, Francis Smith b. 1899 his parents were James Smith B.1860c D.1937 & Fanny Andrews B. 1868c. James and Fanny were married in Collingwood, Victoria, Australia. Francis Smith was one of seven children that I know of. Regards, Sharon.
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TonyOz
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8 Nov 2009 12:26 |
Hi Sharon.
Births registered in Melbourne. It appears Francis birth registration was index'd as Frank William SMITH 1899
SMITH, Howard James CB 1909272 Birth Father: James Mother: Andrews Fanny Event Place: Brun ( Bruswick ) Reg Year: 1886 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 906
SMITH, Florence May CB 1905598 Birth Father: James Mother: Andrews Fanny Event Place: F'Cray ( Footscray ) Reg Year: 1888 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 3197
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Ethel Margaret Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: James Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Fanny ANDREWS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: FOOTSCRAY Death Place: Year: 1890 Reg. Number: 13086
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Edwin Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Jas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Fanny ANDREWS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: FOOTSCRAY Death Place: Year: 1892 Reg. Number: 4092
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Ivy Amelia Event: B Sex: F Spouse Surname/Father: Jas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Fanny ANDREWS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: EDON Death Place: Year: 1894 Reg. Number: 11583
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Frank Wm Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Jas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Fanny ANDREWS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: ESSENDON Death Place: Year: 1899 Reg. Number: 10264
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Percy Hy Event: B Sex: M Spouse Surname/Father: Jas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Fanny ANDREWS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: ESSENDON Death Place: Year: 1903 Reg. Number: 10249
Tony ( Melbourne Vic. )
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Sharon
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8 Nov 2009 12:33 |
Hi, Tony Thanks for the info once again Regards, Sharon. (Bendigo,Vic)
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TonyOz
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8 Nov 2009 12:42 |
Are you looking for anything specific regarding your Grandad?
There were many marriages 1917 to 1920s of a Frank SMITH....Francis SMITH.......Francis William SMITH.
This could be his marriage seeing he was born Frank William SMITH
A SMITH marriage to a SMITH.
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Frank William Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: SMITH Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Teresa Age: Age Code: Birth Place: Death Place: Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 3199
********************** His parents marriage....but you seem to have these details.
SMITH, James CM 907352 Marriage Spouse: ANDREWS, Fanny Marriage Place: C'Wood Reg Year: 1884 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 5851
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Sharon
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8 Nov 2009 13:15 |
Hi Tony, That's the marriage My nana was a Smith and she married a Smith, who could believe that!!! I didn't have the date of the marriage though, thanks. My Pa's parents James Smith and Fanny Andrews is as far as I go, so know very little about his side of the family. Sharon.
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TonyOz
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8 Nov 2009 13:34 |
M'mmmmmm Yes, a SMITH marrying a SMITH...not good........lol
You think they could have at least married a JONES...:>))
Anyway........It appears his mother Fanny Andrews was born in Collingwood ( My birth town.....:>))...and one of six siblings.
Death Melbourne.
Surname: SMITH Given Names: Fanny Father: Andrews Geo Mother: Elizbth FREEMAN Death Place: MELBNE Age: 77 Age Code: Year: 1937 Reg Number: 11081 Event: D
Birth Melbourne:
ANDREWS, Fanny CB 37140 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Elizabeth Event Place: Co Ll .....( Poss: Collingwood ) Reg Year: 1860 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 17497
ANDREWS, George CB 37238 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Elizabeth Event Place: Hoth Reg Year: 1862 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 21932
ANDREWS, Alfred CB 36516 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Elizabeth Event Place: Melb Reg Year: 1865 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 3420
ANDREWS, Sarah Ann CB 38128 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Eliz Event Place: Melb N Reg Year: 1867 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 3329
ANDREWS, William CB 38328 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Elizth Event Place: N Mel Reg Year: 1869 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 9863
ANDREWS, Eliz CB 36927 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Eliz Event Place: Melb Nth Reg Year: 1873 Reg State: Victoria Ref Number: 10783
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TonyOz
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8 Nov 2009 14:08 |
Cant find a George ANDREWS marriage to a Elizabeth FREEMAN in Australia
Free BDM ...U.K does show
Marriages Sep 1848 ANDREWS George Keynsham 11 122 FREEMAN Elizabeth Keynsham 11 122
The district Keynsham spans the boundaries of the counties of Gloucestershire and Somerset
As this marriage was 1848....there possibly could be more children before Fanny in 1860
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TonyOz
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8 Nov 2009 14:52 |
Checking other States.
One more birth registered in Western Australia? Reg Year 1858....Event place Victoria District
ANDREWS, Sarah CB 38112 Birth Father: George Mother: Freeman Elizabeth Event Place: Victoria District Reg Year: 1858 Reg State: Western Australia Ref Number: 4282
W.A On-line births ( 1848 to 1859 ) also show ANDREWS SARAH Fath: GEORGE FREEMAN Moth:ELIZABETH VICTORIA DIST 4282 1858
Perhaps this was their port of Immigration from England....and then moved across to Victoria
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Sharon
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8 Nov 2009 20:51 |
Hi Tony, Thanks once again for all your information and time spent finding it. I will go through this in more detail later on this morning!! I am going to the Bendigo Library this afternoon( my day off )haven't been there for awhile so will hopefully find out a little more on the relo's. Sharon.
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TonyOz
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9 Nov 2009 02:26 |
Hi Sharon.
If you need a little more info on the Frank Wiliam SMITH side.....eg: His father James SMITH....B.1860c D.1937 ( as you said ) just let me know.
You say he, James died in 1937. .....Just so you know, there are 15 James SMITH deaths index'd in 1937 in Victoria......and appox 6 James SMITH births in 1860 in Victoria.
Perhaps you already know who his parents were?
Tony
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Sharon
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10 Nov 2009 11:41 |
Hi Tony, I spent a few hours at the library yesterday, found a little more inforamtion on George Andrews and Elizabeth Freemans children. I thought the Sarah born in WA 1858 might be wrong or she had died at an early age because they had named another child Sarah Ann b 1867. Anyway it turns out Sarah died in 1859 in WA aged 11mths,Alfred also died in 1866 aged 21mths and William died aged 10weeks. Leaving George,Sarah Ann and Elizabeth as the only surving children.I cannot believe they lost three children it would have been bad enough to loose just one. I also think I have found the parents for Elizabeth Freeman- George Freeman and Sarah unknown. I was only thinking this morning about getting a marriage cert. for my Pa(Frank Wiliiam Smith) & Nan( Teresa Gertrude Smith) to see if I could find aliitle more on James Smith and where he came from?? Sharon, PS I dont know who James Smith's parents were
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