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On censers record a womens name appears. Her name was Ethel I know nothing about her. No one in my family knows her. How could I find more about her? she lived with my great grand parents but she not on any other censer before that.

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Names , year of birth and area.

Which census do you refer to?

Christine

Jennifer, please read your post again .... how is anybody supposed to know where to start ?

Which Ethel ?
Which Census?
Which family ?

another case for Claire Voyant methinks!!! or ye olde crystal ball!!!

In Jennifers OP she is asking how she could go about finding out more.......so i don't know what the sarky replies are for

Jennifer, first have you looked at the image to check if she belonged to the next household and been transcribed incorrectly? Next, does it give her relationship to the head of the household? She may be a lodger or servant.

Has she got the same surname as your family or other surnames in your ancestor's family? She may be a distant relative?

Ozi

PM received from Jennifer....

She mentioned on my great great grandmother census record as Sarah Webster living with her husband James Smith and Abraham Smith son and Ethel. No one in the family knows who she is???

We know that her Abraham was sent away and his father remarried she could be his father second wife child but no one knows her.

Looks like this one.

1901 England Census
Name: Braham Smith [Abraham Smith]
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Smith
Mother's Name: Sarah Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Mackworth
Civil parish: Derby
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: 12 Morley St

Registration district: Derby
Sub-registration district: Derby
Household Members: Name Age
James Smith 41 - milk seller
Sarah Smith 40
Braham Smith 18
Ethel Smith 15 - daughter


1891 England Census
Name: James Smith
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Spouse's name: Ada G Smith
Mother's Name: Ellen Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Mackworth, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Mackworth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Mackworth
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Belper
Sub-registration district: Duffield
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Smith 75 - farmer
Thomas Smith 52 - son; single; deaf & dumb
George A Smith 37 - son; married; farmer
James Smith 31 - son; single
Ada G Smith 27 - daughter-in-law
Thomas W Ward 18 - servant
George Adams 13 - servant
Ann Hughes 19 - servant
Fanny Woolley 13 - servant
Mary E Smith 2 - grand daughter
Albert T Smith 1 - grand son

1911 census - address transcription
Address: 12 Morley Street Derby

Sched Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

SMITH, James Head Married M 52 1859 Dairyman Mackworth Derby
SMITH, Jane Wife Married 19 years F 44 1867 None Mackworth Derbyshire
SMITH, Abraham James Son Single M 18 1893 Assistant Derby
SMITH, Ethel Ellen Daughter Single F 16 1895 Dressmaker Derby

maybe Ethel was known in the family by her middle name of Ellen?

It looks as if 1901 has their ages mistranscribed as they are the same as 1911 and I can't find them in 1891. This MIGHT be Ethel.

Births Sep 1894
Smith Ethel Ellen Derby 7b 507
OR
Births Sep 1896
Smith Ethel Ellen Derby 7b 585

Marriages Mar 1918
SMITH Ethel E Spurling Derby 7b 1125
There are 7 Spurling/Smith offspring born in Derby.



It is interesting that James & Jane in 1911 have been married for 19 years. So are Sarah & Jane the same woman?

hmm

just checked again re the ages on the 1901 census, the original does read 18 for Abraham and 15 for Ethel

cannot find a birth that matches the 1901 census, but this one matches the 1911

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Abraham James Smith
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Derby
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 663

Yes, the original of 1901 clearly has them in their teens. The enumerator must have mistranscribed or misread from the household form.

Ozi

Marriages Sep 1891
Harrison Mary Ellen Derby 7b 764
King Frederick Derby 7b 764
Smith James Derby 7b 764
Webster Sarah Derby 7b 764


Births Sep 1892
Smith Abraham James Derby 7b 663