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Could some kind soul do a search on the 1911 census for me please. I'm looking for the family details on:

First names LILY
Last names SMITH
Birth Year 1901
District Blything
Residence SUFFOLK
Other person first names HERBERT

Many many thanks, David

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, Lily
Address: Greyhound Westhall Wangford

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SMITH, Edward Head Married M 49 1862 Fermmer Labourer Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Hanner Wife Married
10 years F 42 1869 Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Florrie Daughter Single F 17 1894 Housekeeper Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Edward Son Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Rose Daughter F 15 1896 Farm Servant Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Ethel Daughter F 13 1898 School Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Lily Daughter F 10 1901 School Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Herbert Son M 7 1904 School Westhall Suffolk VIEW
SMITH, Clifford Son M 3 1908 School Westhall Suffolk VIEW

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Wonderful thankyou so much.

i notice though that it says married 10 years, i think it should read 20.

Yes it does say 20 on the image...just transcribed incorrectly

jax

I'm assuming it would say if edward had been married before?
Wifes name should read Anna

No it would'nt say whether he was married before just how long he had been married and how many children born to this marriage alive, still living and died

jax

which is 8 children 7 living and 1 died

Ann / Anna / Hannah -- Hanner with an accent ;) -- were basically interchangeable, so I'd say you have the same wife # 1.


Household in 1901:

Edward Smith 36
Anna Smith 29 - born abt 1872, Westhall
Flarrie Smith 7
Edward J Smith 6
Rose M Smith 5
Ethel M Smith 3

Civil Parish: Westhall
County/Island: Suffolk


So it's the same family.

That's interesting, my nans mum is lily and lily spoke many many years ago to her that they had a sister who died in a fire, i guess that's the one. One other thing that mystifies me is that there should be a son called Ernest. He certainly lived due to him attending his fathers funeral. I suspect that since they married in 1891 Florrie was not the 1st born.

Thanks for your help by the way

Marriages Jun 1891
Seamans Anna Maria Blything 4a 1253
Smith Edward Blything 4a 1253

No Ernest Smith with mother Seamans (or Seaman) born after 1911.

You say the name should read Anna...well Edward filled the form in and thats what he wrote, but remember they were not always literate back then, I have had some strange spellings on that census for my ancestors

jax

Hmmm... i have the obituary here, and his son Ernest attended the funeral, maybe he had a son from a previous marriage or liason?

It was Anna I was wondering about having a child before the marriage.

I can't find a birth that matches her details,at all.

This may be why ...


1891

Mary Ann Seamans 62
Henry Seamans 23
James Seamans 19
Anna Seamans 18

Civil Parish: Westhall


Marriages Mar 1871
Beamish Emma Blything 4a 834
> Durrant Mary Ann Blything 4a 834
Puttock James Blything 4a 834
> Seamans Henry Blything 4a 834


Births Dec 1870
DURRANT Anna Maria Wangford 4a 674


But no Ernest Smith mother Durrant, either.

Births Sep 1886 ?
Durrant Ernest Edward Wangford 4a 889


But then where in 1891 ...


With parents George and Elizabeth in St Mary Bungay, that's where. So rule him out. ;)

Could this be Ernest but the mother's surname has been mispelt?

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)

Smith Ernest R Simmons Blything 4a 2033

excellent work guys, i'm gonna take that as a yes. Thankyou so much. When's the 1921 census coming out lol ;)

Aha, good find, K -- I'd tried all Sea* possibilities, but not that one! -- but of course David needs the birth cert to be sure. ;)

And of course, I still think Anna Maria was actually Durrant. ;)