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looking to find Albert Smith, I cant find a birth certificate for him but the 1939 National register states his birth is 18 May 1874. The 1911 census puts him at 37 (signed b himself, being born in Birmingham Warwickshire although the rest of his family was born in Staffs.

Cant find a marriage for him either, the 1911 states married for 4 years to Ann Maria Smith (Nee Etchells).

Could anybody help with parish registers?

All the best

They could have lied about being married.......many couples did.

For INFO only

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, Ann Maria
Address: 42 Addison Street Wednesbury

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SMITH, Albert Head Married M 37 1874 Tube Brazier Bham Warwkshire VIEW
SMITH, Ann Maria Wife Married
4 years F 32 1879 Darlaston Staffordshire VIEW
SMITH, Gladys Lilian Daughter Single F 3 1908 Darlaston Staffordshire VIEW
SMITH, Phyllis Mabel Daughter Single F 2 1909 Darlaston Staffordshire VIEW
SMITH, John Rolland Son Single M 1 1910 Wednesbury Staffordshire VIEW
ETCHELLS, William Boarder Married M 45 1866 Tube Dresser Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW

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Aston covers part of Birmingham.

A maybe ?

Births Jun 1874
Smith Albert - Aston 6d 438

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Marriages Dec 1905

*****************DAWES Annie Maria Birmingham 6d 216
POTTER Edgar Herbert Birmingham 6d 216
*****************SMITH Albert Birmingham 6d 216
WRIGHT Emily Matilda Birmingham 6d 216

Births Dec 1906
Smith Gladys Lilian - Tamworth 6b 436



Births Mar 1910
SMITH John Roland - W Bromwich 6b 808

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Where did the name Etchells come from apart from the boarder in 1911 census?

jax

Given his age he was probably married before.

Rose

This birth would fit the "wif'e's" details........

Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Etchells Ann Maria Walsall 6b 688
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1901

Name: Ann M Etchells
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Edwin Etchells
Mother's name: Elizabeth Etchells
Gender: Female
Where born: Darlaston, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Darlaston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Darlaston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Darlaston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Etchells 63
Elizabeth Etchells 62
Ann M Etchells 21

1881 would seem to confirm that the Boarder in 1911 was Ann's brother

Name: William Etchell
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edwin Etchell
Mother's name: Elizabeth Etchell
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wednesbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: 43 Hill Street
Occupation: White Smith

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Wednesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edwin Etchell 44
Elizabeth Etchell 43
William Etchell 15
Fanny Etchell 12
Mary Etchell 10
Elizabeth Etchell 6
Harry Etchell 4
Ann M. Etchell 2

Hi All yes thats right, the name Etchells was Ann Maria Smiths maiden name william the boarder on the 1911 was her brother.

Many thanks for your help!.

I have tried a few random matches to Albert Smiths being born in 1874 Birmingham with the GRO and the certificates sent back to me do not seem to fit at all!

Does anyone have any access to parish records that might help?

I agree with ROSE I think he was married before but with such a common name as smith, it may be like finding a needle in a haystack!