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My G Grandfather was born 1877 in Walsall Robert Smith, married 1906 and died 1923, on marriage cert father listed as James a collier deceased, on birth Cert mother listed as Ann Robinson.
Between birth and 1911 can not find on any census at all any of them or record of fathers death, not even sure where he was a 'collier'! Help this mystery has been driving me mad for 5 years

For reference, is this Robert in 1911?

SMITH, Robert Head Married M 32 1879 Labourer Walsall South Staffordshire VIEW
SMITH, Hannah Wife Married
5 years F 28 1883 Walsall South Staffordshire VIEW
SMITH, Nancy Elizabeth Daughter F 2 1909 Walsall South Staffordshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17176 Reference:
RG14PN17176 RG78PN1057 RD370 SD3 ED19 SN377

Registration District:
Walsall Sub District:
Walsall Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Walsall

Address:
102 Victor Street Walsall County:
Staffordshire

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
Claridge Hannah Walsall 6b 834
Smith Robert Walsall 6b 834

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Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
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Robinson Ann Walsall 6b 713
SMITH James Walsall 6b 713

Hi Lynne yes this is the one, thanks Barbara I must have been blind!!!!!

Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
SMITH Robert Walsall 6b 707

yep thats the birth so why do they not appear on any census?

I am thinking you might have to get the marriage certificate for James and Ann to see what ages they state and their father's names.

This would at least narrow down the search because I don't know what age I am looking for and there are a lot of Smiths. Do you know if Robert had any siblings?

yep thats the birth so why do they not appear on any census?

Thanks Lynne yes that might be a good idea, None of the family know anything about Robert or his family as he died before all living relis were born, They did know Hannah but did not ask!!!

I will keep searching through the Smiths and if you get the marriage certificate please come back to this thread and add the details. I will see it in my thread participation and we can continue the search.............

What was his occupation on the marriage cert ?
Could this be him ?

1901
Robert Smith - 25 - Born Staffordshire Fradley - residing Staffordshire Walsall - Railway Fuel Man

he workd in an iron foundry and then became a soldier

Thanks Lynne I have ordered it today!

Cert arrived Ann aged 41 father James 57 not sure if correct although does state father is a miner
Marriage is def Ann Robinson how Robert's birth cert says Ann Roberts
thoughts?

Robert Smith 1906 was a Soldier, however 1911 he worked in an iron foundry so ????

bump now really stuck!