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Judith
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11 Feb 2011 10:35 |
Emma smith b emma Turner 1828 m Solomon Smith 1848 was in the 1851 census living in Walsall Staffordshire at her parents house with her 2 children . Her husband was living in Bagworth Leicestershire. emma died between 1851-1855 (solomon remarried in 1855) I would like to find Emmas death certificate. It could be in the name of Smith or Turner- her 2 children born Smith changed their name to Smith in later life. (no sucsess so far Smith & Turner very common names) Im clutching at straws any help would be appreciated !!!!
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11 Feb 2011 10:45 |
The place to look is freebmd....that's where any of us would check.
BUT.........as there were no ages on the index at that time, not sure how you'd know which was correct......assuming of course that she died.
As she was married, there's no reason that I can see for her death to be in her maiden name...............
Puzzled by your comment that her children born Smith changed name to Smith.
Can you confirm that she has not been found on any census after 1851.................
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11 Feb 2011 10:47 |
Does Solomaon have the children with him 1861?
Putting for reference:
1851 England Census
Name: Emma Smith [Emma Turner] Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Turner Mother's name: Mary Turner Gender: F (Female) Where born: Oakthorpe, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire
Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Walsall
Joseph Turner 46 Mary Turner 44 Willen Turner 24 Emma Smith 22 Jos Tumer 14 James Tumer 12 Esther Tumer 5 Same Smith 2 Mary A Smith 3 MO Where born: Bagworth, Leicestershire, England
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11 Feb 2011 10:50 |
1851 England Census
Name: Solomon Smith Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Lodger Gender: M (Male) Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Bagworth County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Market Bosworth Sub-registration district: Market Bosworth
William Findley 28 Elizh Findley 29 John Findley 5 M A Findley 3 Thomas Findley 9 MO Solomon Smith 23
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11 Feb 2011 10:53 |
1851.purely for INFO
Name: Emma Smith [Emma Turner] Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1829 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Turner Mother's name: Mary Turner Gender: F (Female) Where born: Oakthorpe, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign Town: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 1f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 214 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Turner 46 Mary Turner 44 Willen Turner 24 Emma Smith 22 Jos Tumer 14 James Tumer 12 Esther Tumer 5 Same Smith 2 *************Sam'l (Samuel)b. Bagworth Mary A Smith 3 MO b. Bagworth
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11 Feb 2011 11:10 |
1871
Name: Solomon Smith Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Smith Gender: Male Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Radford Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Radford Sub-registration district: Radford ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Solomon Smith 43 Elizabeth Smith 34 Emmaline Smith 15 Clara Smith 12 Elizabeth Smith 10 Joseph H Smith 8 Sarah Ann Smith 6 Betsy Smith 4 Samuel Smith 1 _____________________________________________________
1861
Name: Solomon Smith Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Smith Mother's name: Sarah Skinner Gender: Male Where born: Radford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Radford Ecclesiastical parish: Radford St Peter Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Radford Sub-registration district: Radford ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Solomon Smith 31 Elizabeth Smith 29 Emiline Smith 5 Clara Smith 2 Elizabeth Smith 6 MO Sarah Skinner 66
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11 Feb 2011 11:18 |
There is only ONE death for the name in Walsall district in 1853 +/- 2 years!!! Where have you looked?
Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smith Emma Walsall 17 186
Of course, no guarantee that this is the right person........only by obtaining the cert will you be able to find out
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11 Feb 2011 11:22 |
Emma's children with g/parents in 1861
Name: Joseph Turner Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Ann Turner Gender: Male Where born: Blackford, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign Ecclesiastical parish: Bloxwich County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Walsall Sub-registration district: Bloxwich ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 61 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Turner 55 Mary Ann Turner 52 Joseph Turner 25 James Turner 23 Samuel Smith 12 Mary Ann Smith 10
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Judith
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14 Feb 2011 09:56 |
Thanks for reply on trying to find a death certificate for Emma Smith. She was definately not on the 1861 census.I have obtained the one death certificate for Emma Smith in Walsall for this period and it is unfortunately not her. In the 1861 census her children were still living in Walsall with their grandparents not with their father Solomon. Sorry i meant that her children changed their name from Smith to Turner (1st noted on their marriage certificates)
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