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Smith from Battle sussex england

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carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 12:04

i have a Alice Smith on my tree ,1901 census shows her aged 9 Battle sussex ,BMD shows her born 1890 Battle sussex daughter of George Smith b 1863 Melton Mowbray 1863 & Lily Smith b 1871 Battle

I am trying to find her marriage .
There are 3 possibles .
Henry s Juden in 1926 Battle
Edmund m pierce 1928 Battle
Albert Smith 1911 Battle
How do i find the correct one ?.
I really do not want to send for 3 certificates ,is there any other way .
Hope some one can please advise the next step to find the correct groom

Barbara .

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 12:12

You can check on FreeBMD for possible children, after 1911, using both surnames which might help to narrow it down

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Apr 2011 12:13

If I were to guess, I would go for Albert Smith, if only because it's a more likely marriage in view of age. She would be 36/38 for the others, possible but much less likely.
Jan

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 12:18

Have you found her in 1911 still single as she is old enough to be married by then

carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 12:19

Thank you both ,will have a go at both suggesttons .
Barbara

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 12:22

1911 possible that Mum has remarried

WOOD, Henry Head Married M 33 1878 Bricklayer's Labourer Sussex Battle VIEW
WOOD, Lily Wife Married
6 years F 40 1871 Sussex Battle VIEW
LESTER, Maud Stepdaughter Single F 17 1894 Sussex Battle VIEW
SMITH, George Stepson M 11 1900 School Sussex Battle VIEW
SMITH, Winifred Ann Stepdaughter F 10 1901 School Sussex Battle VIEW
WOOD, Albert Henry Son M 5 1906 Sussex Battle VIEW
WOOD, Lily Hilda Daughter F 4 1907 Sussex Battle VIEW
WOOD, James Robin Son M 3 1908 Sussex Battle VIEW
WOOD, Mabel Daughter F 1 1910 Sussex Battle VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
4792 Reference:
RG14PN4792 RG78PN206 RD70 SD2 ED4 SN27

Registration District:
Battle Sub District:
Battle Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Battle

Address:
Marley Cottages Battle

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 12:39

Not convinced that Alice you are looking for is a SMITH

More likely a LESTER

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Lester Alice Battle 2b 57

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Births Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Lester Maud Battle 2b 57




Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
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Ballard William Battle 2b 65
Lester Lily Battle 2b 65
Schnorr Mary Jane Battle 2b 65
Smith George Battle 2b 65




1891
Name: Lillie Sester
[Lillie Lester]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Henry W Sester
Mother's name: Ellen Sester
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Battle
Ecclesiastical parish: Battle St Mary
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 769
Folio: 25
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Henry W Sester 60
Ellen Sester 58
Lillie Sester 20
Sarah I Sester 10
Mabel P Sester 8




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Deaths Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Lester Alice 10 Battle 2b 49


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Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)
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Smith George 38 Battle 2b 36



Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%)
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Robins Harry Herbert Battle 2b 76
SMITH Lily Battle 2b 76
STEVENS Ada Battle 2b 76
WOOD Harry Battle 2b 76



Births Jun 1871 (>99%)
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Lester Lilly Battle 2b

carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 12:59

Glitter baby
many thanks
Maiden name of mother of Alice Smith b 1890/2 was Lily Lester b 1871 Battle ,you are correct there ..
Lily Lester second marriage was to a Wood ,these.are my Grandparents

I think perhaps Alice Smith was from the first marriage of George Smith & was step daughter of Lily .

Barbara.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 13:04

I still have my doubts

Have you found her in 1891 if the birth is registered in 1890

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 13:16

1891 just for info
Name: George Smith
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Eastham
Ecclesiastical parish: Eastham
Town: Eastham
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wirral
Sub-registration district: Eastham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2872
Folio: 31
Page Number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 29
Elizabeth Smith 35
Alice M Smith 2 shown as born Melton Mowbray
Samuel Aticken 28
Robert C Scott 22
William Shinkwin 50
Thomas Burton 28
Bridget Barton 28
Andrew Barton 6
Roseana Barton 2
John Marshall 36
John Harvey 42



This one has a middle initial

carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 13:31

Just a few minutes behind you ,
I think we have found her ,everything points to it .
No wonder I have been confused over who she was ,as 1901 census shows her born Battle ,don't make it easy for us .
Good work ,
Now to find her marriage .

Barbara.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 13:36

Still think you could be wrong

If Alice is 2 years old in 1891 then unlikely to be age 9 in 1901




carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 13:48

This is why it is so confusing .Ages on census differ .
BUT
I have found a death for a Elizabeth Smith aged 40 Sept 1/4 Leicester 1895 ,who possibly could be first wife of george smith .

carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 13:53

Just checked the marriage cert for George Smith & Lily Lester 1899 battle ,he is shown as Widower .

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 13:57

My money is still on Alice Lester being the right one for the 1901 census


Only way to prove it is to buy the birth cert but she died in 1902

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 22 Apr 2011 13:59

Good luck

Hope you update the thread when you do get some more certs

Maureen

carbo

carbo Report 22 Apr 2011 17:11

Thank you for your interesting comments ,i will keep them in mind .
barbara