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Smith family Attercliffe-cum-Darnell Sheffield

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Theresa

Theresa Report 14 Dec 2007 00:50

My Greatgrandfather John Jessop Smith born 1860 Attercliffe-cum-Darnell. He was a Blacksmith. John died before 1910.
His wife Sarah Ann Holden came to Australia between 1910 &1915.Their children Agnes, Alice, Mary,John Robert, Jean, Joseph and Samuel.
John's father Samuel born c1838 Attercliffe-cum-Darnell. I have no info on John's mother.

boas

boas Report 14 Dec 2007 01:19

Hi Theresa

On the 1861 census John J smith b 1858 has parents Samuel Smith and Ann born abt 1831 Sheffield .
I believe the marriage in 1856 Sheffield between Samuel Smith and Ann Jones is yours.

Theresa

Theresa Report 14 Dec 2007 02:30

Thank you Barry for your help.

I was also wanting to know if there was anymore children

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 05:45

1891 Census for reference


Name: John Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann
Father's Name: Samuel
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Ellen Smith 7 b.ca 1884, Sheffield
Alice Smith 5 b.ca 1886, Sheffield
Ellen Smith 6/12 b.ca 1890, Sheffield
John Smith 33 Blacksmith
Mary Ann Smith 2 b.ca 1889, Sheffield
Samuel Smith 75 b.ca 1816, Sheffield, Widower, Father, Living on Own Means
Sarah Ann Smith 29 b.ca 1862, Blackburn, Lancashire


Address:- 26 Canal St, Attercliffe


I assume this is your family? Even though Samuel's age is different from the one you gave?


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 05:53

well well well


this may be explains John's middle name

Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%)

BILLAM Elizabeth Sheffield 22 427
CAPPER Mary Sheffield 22 427
Evans Thomas Sheffield 22 427
Fox Richard Sheffield 22 427
FRANCIS Richard Sheffield 22 427
Hepworth Ann Sheffield 22 427
>>>>Jessop Elizabeth Sheffield 22 427
>>>>Smith Samuel Sheffield 22 427
WALLER William Sheffield 22 427



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 05:58

This therefore seems to mske this parentage more likely for John, particularly as this Samuel is a Blacksmith's Striker. The address is also on the same street as in the 1891.


1871 Census

Name: John Smith
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Attercliffe, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch
Town: Attercliffe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members: Name Age
David Smith 12 b.ca 1859, Attercliffe, Carter
Elizabeth Smith 44 b.ca 1827, Attercliffe
John Smith 14 Bolt Turner
Mary A Smith 17 b.ca 1854, Attercliffe
Samuel Smith 50 b.ca 1821, Scotland
Samuel Smith 10 b.ca 1861, Attercliffe, Scholar
William Smith 5 b.ca 1866, Attercliffe, Scholar

Address:- Canal St, Attercliffe



sylvia


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 06:08

1901 Census

Name: Sarah Ann Smith
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John J
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Holden 79 b.ca 1822, Churchtown, Lancashire, Blacksmiths Striker
Jane Smith 3 b.ca 1898, Sheffield
John J Smith 43 Blacksmith (engineer)
John R Smith 8 b.ca 1893, Sheffield
Joseph Smith 6 b.ca 1895, Sheffield
Mary Ann Smith 12 b.ca 1889, Sheffield
Samuel Smith 1 b.ca 1900, Sheffield
Sarah Ann Smith 39 b.ca 1862, Blackburn, Lancashire


Address:- 43 Slitting Mill Lane, Attercliffe/

- - - -

From the 1891 and 1901 censuses, the children are

Agnes Ellen, b. ca 1884
Alice, b. ca 1886
Mary Ann, b.ca 1889
Ellen, b.ca 1890 <<<<<<<< not named by you
John R, b.ca 1893
Joseph, b.ca 1895
Jane, b.ca 1898 <---------- is the child you call Jean???
Samuel, b.ca 1900


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 06:11

John's death registration from www.freebmd.org.uk


Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%)

Smith John Jessop 45 Sheffield 9c 401



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 06:12

This could be Ellen's death, being as she doesn't show on the 1901 Census, but it is only a guess!


Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%)

Smith Ellen 1 Sheffield 9c 350



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 06:30

1861 Census

Name: John Smith
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Attercliffe and Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 210
Household Members: Name Age
David Wallace Smith 2
Elizabeth Smith 35 Milliner
Elizabeth Smith 12
Jane Smith 10
John Smith 4
Mary Ann Smith 7
Samuel Smith 38 Spade Striker



sylvia

sylvia

Theresa

Theresa Report 14 Dec 2007 06:41

Sylvia many thanks I do not how to thank you for help and time.
I have been looking for this information since 1988.

Theresa

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Dec 2007 07:01

Theresa


You are very welcome.

I think I have the right family for you, it all seems to fit together.

I couldn't find a birth for a John Jessop Smith to prove his parentage, although there are plenty of John Smiths!!

It may be that he was registered as just John, and then Jessop was added whn he was baptised.



sylvia