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14 Dec 2007 00:50 |
My Greatgrandfather John Jessop Smith born 1860 Attercliffe-cum-Darnell. He was a Blacksmith. John died before 1910. His wife Sarah Ann Holden came to Australia between 1910 &1915.Their children Agnes, Alice, Mary,John Robert, Jean, Joseph and Samuel. John's father Samuel born c1838 Attercliffe-cum-Darnell. I have no info on John's mother.
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14 Dec 2007 01:19 |
Hi Theresa
On the 1861 census John J smith b 1858 has parents Samuel Smith and Ann born abt 1831 Sheffield . I believe the marriage in 1856 Sheffield between Samuel Smith and Ann Jones is yours.
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14 Dec 2007 02:30 |
Thank you Barry for your help.
I was also wanting to know if there was anymore children
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14 Dec 2007 05:45 |
1891 Census for reference
Name: John Smith Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Ann Father's Name: Samuel Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Attercliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Agnes Ellen Smith 7 b.ca 1884, Sheffield Alice Smith 5 b.ca 1886, Sheffield Ellen Smith 6/12 b.ca 1890, Sheffield John Smith 33 Blacksmith Mary Ann Smith 2 b.ca 1889, Sheffield Samuel Smith 75 b.ca 1816, Sheffield, Widower, Father, Living on Own Means Sarah Ann Smith 29 b.ca 1862, Blackburn, Lancashire
Address:- 26 Canal St, Attercliffe
I assume this is your family? Even though Samuel's age is different from the one you gave? sylvia
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14 Dec 2007 05:53 |
well well well
this may be explains John's middle name
Marriages Mar 1848 (>99%) BILLAM Elizabeth Sheffield 22 427 CAPPER Mary Sheffield 22 427 Evans Thomas Sheffield 22 427 Fox Richard Sheffield 22 427 FRANCIS Richard Sheffield 22 427 Hepworth Ann Sheffield 22 427 >>>>Jessop Elizabeth Sheffield 22 427 >>>>Smith Samuel Sheffield 22 427 WALLER William Sheffield 22 427
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14 Dec 2007 05:58 |
This therefore seems to mske this parentage more likely for John, particularly as this Samuel is a Blacksmith's Striker. The address is also on the same street as in the 1891.
1871 Census
Name: John Smith Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Attercliffe, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch Town: Attercliffe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Attercliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 114 Household Members: Name Age David Smith 12 b.ca 1859, Attercliffe, Carter Elizabeth Smith 44 b.ca 1827, Attercliffe John Smith 14 Bolt Turner Mary A Smith 17 b.ca 1854, Attercliffe Samuel Smith 50 b.ca 1821, Scotland Samuel Smith 10 b.ca 1861, Attercliffe, Scholar William Smith 5 b.ca 1866, Attercliffe, Scholar
Address:- Canal St, Attercliffe
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14 Dec 2007 06:08 |
1901 Census
Name: Sarah Ann Smith Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John J Gender: Female Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Attercliffe Cum Darnall Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Attercliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 192 Household Members: Name Age Robert Holden 79 b.ca 1822, Churchtown, Lancashire, Blacksmiths Striker Jane Smith 3 b.ca 1898, Sheffield John J Smith 43 Blacksmith (engineer) John R Smith 8 b.ca 1893, Sheffield Joseph Smith 6 b.ca 1895, Sheffield Mary Ann Smith 12 b.ca 1889, Sheffield Samuel Smith 1 b.ca 1900, Sheffield Sarah Ann Smith 39 b.ca 1862, Blackburn, Lancashire
Address:- 43 Slitting Mill Lane, Attercliffe/
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From the 1891 and 1901 censuses, the children are
Agnes Ellen, b. ca 1884 Alice, b. ca 1886 Mary Ann, b.ca 1889 Ellen, b.ca 1890 <<<<<<<< not named by you John R, b.ca 1893 Joseph, b.ca 1895 Jane, b.ca 1898 <---------- is the child you call Jean??? Samuel, b.ca 1900 sylvia
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14 Dec 2007 06:11 |
John's death registration from www.freebmd.org.uk
Deaths Sep 1901 (>99%) Smith John Jessop 45 Sheffield 9c 401
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14 Dec 2007 06:12 |
This could be Ellen's death, being as she doesn't show on the 1901 Census, but it is only a guess!
Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%) Smith Ellen 1 Sheffield 9c 350
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14 Dec 2007 06:30 |
1861 Census
Name: John Smith Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Attercliffe and Darnall Ecclesiastical parish: Attercliffe Christchurch County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: Attercliffe ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 210 Household Members: Name Age David Wallace Smith 2 Elizabeth Smith 35 Milliner Elizabeth Smith 12 Jane Smith 10 John Smith 4 Mary Ann Smith 7 Samuel Smith 38 Spade Striker
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Theresa
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14 Dec 2007 06:41 |
Sylvia many thanks I do not how to thank you for help and time. I have been looking for this information since 1988.
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14 Dec 2007 07:01 |
Theresa
You are very welcome.
I think I have the right family for you, it all seems to fit together.
I couldn't find a birth for a John Jessop Smith to prove his parentage, although there are plenty of John Smiths!!
It may be that he was registered as just John, and then Jessop was added whn he was baptised.
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