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Anthea

Anthea Report 7 Feb 2011 15:28

Have been researching the seven names on the Bourton-on-the-Hill, Glos War Memorial, erected in 1921. Have found the details of six of the names but can find nothing on the seventh. The name is Cyril B C Sprules
Can anyone help?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:01

An Alfred Stanley Sprules born 1892 in Bristol was in the Canadian Expeditionary Forces, next of kin in Somerset 'near Bristol'.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat3/115558a.gif

I wonder whether they might be related


I don't see a birth for Alfred Stanley Sprules at freebmd


edit because I was blind it seems

Births Dec 1891
Sprules Alfred Stanley Bedminster 5c 680

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:02

the name does not appear at the CWGC site

http://www.cwgc.org/debt_of_honour.asp?menuid=14#

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:13

This is the person named as next of kin on Alfred Stanley Sprules' attestation paper

1891 census

Name: Frank Sprules
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Sprules
Gender: Male
Where born: Portishead, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Portishead
Ecclesiastical parish: Portishead
Town: Portishead
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: St George

Household Members: Name Age
Frank Sprules 37
Emma Sprules 38
Frank Sprules 10
Florrie Sprules 8
Emma Sprules 6
Frederick Sprules 5
Edith Sprules 2


This is the household in 1881

Frank F. Sprules 27
Emma A. Sprules 28
Alice M. Sprules 2
Frank W. Sprules
Thomas Terry 34


the only one I see in the 1901 census is daughter Emma

Name: Emma Louisa Sprules
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Portishead, Somerset, England


no, here they are


Frank Sproles 47
Emma Sproles 48
Frank Sproles 20
Frederick Sproles 15
Edith Sproles 12
Alfred Sproles 9
Thomas Sproles 82

Civil Parish: North Weston
Ecclesiastical parish: Portishead
County/Island: Somerset


but no Cyril unfortunately

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 16:33

you will find this useful then

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/records.aspx?cat=040-d8763&cid=-1#-1

although i cannot find cyril on it by name

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 16:36

Albert Joseph Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 23 Mar 1903
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sprules, Ada



Elsie Elizabeth Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 06 Jun 1904
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sprules, Ada Caroline



Ivy Maud Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 02 Aug 1906
residence: Doynton, Gloucester, England
parents: Sidney Sprules, Ada Caroline

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:38

Ann of green gables, how does this help please? are these people related to Cyril B C Sprules?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:40

I wondered whether Cyril might have been in the military before so checked the lists in the Imperial Yeomanry

http://www.britishmedals.us/files/iys.htm

but the only Sprules is

Sprules, A.E. 24026, Trooper 62nd Coy., 11th Bn. I.Y.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 16:41

I have absolutey no idea

Anthea - there is a posting in 2009 on this site by someone else looking for the same details - this was posted on that thread so shall put it on here in case it's of use to you

No Surname Rank Service Number Date Of Death Age Regiment/Service Nationality Grave/Memorial Ref. Cemetery/Memorial Name
1 SPRULES , C H Private 21611 20/10/1918 33 Devonshire Regiment United Kingdom B. 10. BETHENCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY

just wondered if the H could be a mistranscription of B ?

Name: SPRULES
Initials: C H
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Devonshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 33
Date of Death: 20/10/1918
Service No: 21611
Additional information: Son of Henry and Annie Sprules, of 69, Overton, Marlborough, Wilts.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: B. 10.
Cemetery: BETHENCOURT COMMUNAL CEMETERY

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 16:43

Chrissie - without wishing to be confrontational in any way, I am getting a little fed up with you pulling me up on things I post - I have never ever made a comment on anything anyone else has posted on these boards and never will - please stop doing it

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 16:44

just noticed Anthea that that posting was by a family member of yours!!!

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:45

I wondered too, although the initials are in reverse order

Sprules is certainly a Wiltshire name from records in the GRO index

and there is no record of a Cyril Sprules in the index at freebmd

I do wonder about this one

Name: Cyril Birchel O Smith
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stroud (1837 Onw)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 327

the image does say 'O' though, although that could be an error

edit

he died in 1971

Cyril Burchell O Smith 1896 1971 Gloucester City Gloucestershire

I will just leave that there to rule him out, as I do very much wonder whether Sprules was not Cyril's birth surname

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:48

but Ann of green gables, it is not just me, many people wonder about records that are posted with no comment or explanation thta just do not seem to be related in any way

if you would explain what you think the relationship is it would help a lot

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Feb 2011 16:49

This could be C H Sprules (Charles Henry) so probably not the one OP is looking for

1901 England Census
about Henry Sprules
Name: Henry Sprules
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Sprules
Gender: Male
Where born: Fyfield, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: West Overton
Ecclesiastical parish: Alton Priors and Fyfield All Saints and Overton St Michael
Town: Overton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Marlborough
Sub-registration district: Marlborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Sprules 43
Ann Sprules 53
>>>Charles H E Sprules 16
Ellen M Sprules 14
Annie Sprules 12
Gertrude Sprules 8

Andy


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 16:53

but you are the only one who makes these comments - it is for the poster to decide whether or not they think they may be linked or may be helpful in some way

personally as it is such an unusual surname I feel they may well be related

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 16:55

i think you may be on the righ trak aogg

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SPRULES, Elsie
Address: Church of Englands Home For Waifs and Strays 87 Barton W

SPRULES, Elsie Home Girl F 12 1899 School Wilts Marlborough VIEW

elsie is in bourton on the water. looks like some sort of orphanage but born marlborough so we have that devon connection

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 16:57

thanks for that!!! I notice there are far more Sprules in Wiltshire than Gloucestershire

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 7 Feb 2011 16:58

good Andy, it is always useful to rule out possibilities

Ann, I checked the household of the family you posted in the 1911 census and there is no Cyril in the household, the father was born in 1875 and the parents married in 1897, who knows, he could be a brother of Cyril but there are many Sprules

but you know, this is interesting, there is no birth of a Sidney Sprules around 1875 .... only 1847 and 1883.

so my wondering whether Sprules was not Cyril's registered surname ...... maybe it wasn't and he and Sidney were brothers ......


The Elsie who is an orphan in 1911 is an entirely different Elsie from the one whose 1904 baptism Ann of green gables posted above ............ so they seem to be on entirely different tracks in fact ..................

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 7 Feb 2011 16:58

1901 census - household transcription
Person: SPRULES, Henry
Address: 69, South Farm, West Overton, Overton
SPRULES, Henry Head Married M 43 1858 Chimney Sweep
Fyfield
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Ann Wife Married F 53 1848
Overton
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Charles H S Son Single M 16 1885 Chimney Sweep
Preshute
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Ellen M Daughter Single F 14 1887 Pupil Teacher In National Schools
Preshute
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Annie Daughter Single F 12 1889
Lockeridge
Wiltshire
SPRULES, Gertrude Daughter Single F 8 1893
Overton
Wiltshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Feb 2011 17:01

Sidney Sprules

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Wiltshire, England
parents: Henry Sprules, Martha

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Sidney Sprules
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 03 Dec 1871
baptism/christening place: FYFIELD BY MARLBOROUGH,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: Henry Sprules
mother's name: Martha
indexing project (batch) number: C05448-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: