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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 19:29

Angus

Looking at the 1851 this looks like a good poss for John


1851 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Irvine, Ayrsh
Parish Number: 616
Civil parish: Stewarton
Town: Stewarton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Holm
Occupation: Dyer App
ED: 9
Page: 27 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 112
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_139
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas MacKie 58
Janet MacKie 50
David MacKie 15
John MacKie 12
Margaret MacKie 10
Agnes Linn 21
John Watson 18

You should find the details of the marriage of John and Margaret here:

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

It is a pay to view site but you do need the parents names to ensure you are following the correct line.

Good Luck!

Michelle


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 19:12

Angus

This is the 2nd option although there are other John Watson possibles not living in Irvine. As he was born Irvine is doesn't mean by the 1841 he would still be there. This is why you really need the marriage record to pinpoint the correct person.

1841 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3

1841 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Watson
Name: Elizabeth Watson
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1799
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3

1841 Scotland Census
about Thomas Watson
Name: Thomas Watson
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Occupation: H L W
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3

1841 Scotland Census
about William Watson
Name: William Watson
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Occupation: H L W Ap
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3

1841 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3

1841 Scotland Census
about Samuel Watson
Name: Samuel Watson
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3

1841 Scotland Census
about Sarrah Watson
Name: Sarrah Watson
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 51
Elizabeth Watson 42
Thomas Watson 15
William Watson 14
John Watson 11
Samuel Watson 5
Sarrah Watson 3



















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 18:45

Angus

You will need to look up the marriage of John and Margaret to determine the correct John on the early census records.There are a couple possible showing.I will post them to show you:


1841 Scotland Census
about William Watson
Name: William Watson
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Occupation: H L W
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo

1841 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Watson
Name: Elizabeth Watson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo

1841 Scotland Census
about Catherine Watson
Name: Catherine Watson
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo

1841 Scotland Census
about Agness Watson
Name: Agness Watson
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo

1841 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo

1841 Scotland Census
about William Watson
Name: William Watson
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo

1841 Scotland Census
about Marion Watson
Name: Marion Watson
Age: 1 2 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Irvine
County: Ayrshire
Address: West Back Road
Parish Number: 595
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 50
Elizabeth Watson 35
Catherine Watson 12
Agness Watson 9
John Watson 7
William Watson 4
Marion Watson 1 2 Mo






















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 18:24

Angus

1891 Census continued...

1891 Scotland Census
about James C Watson
Name: James C Watson
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Baker
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about Agnes O Watson
Name: Agnes O Watson
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Shopkeeper
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about David M Watson
Name: David M Watson
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Baker
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about Jeanie E Brown
Name: Jeanie E Brown
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Female
Where born: Strathdon, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Gen Dom Serv
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

Stange how he is listed as a Baker here?Did at first glance think it wasnt him but children's names include middle names which match other census records of the family....wonder if maybe he put money into a bakery shop for the whole family to work in?Address matches road of the 1881 census and 1901 census.











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 18:20

Angus

1891 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Maggie
Gender: Male
Where born: Irvine, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Baker
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about Maggie Collie
Name: Maggie Collie
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about Maggie C Watson
Name: Maggie C Watson
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Shop Keeper
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Draper
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about Nellie C Watson
Name: Nellie C Watson
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Milliner
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

1891 Scotland Census
about Jessie G Watson
Name: Jessie G Watson
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Maggie
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeensh
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: Old Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Old Machar
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: 62 Belvidere Pl
Occupation: Shopkeeper
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 226
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_54
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 58
Maggie Collie 54
Maggie C Watson 31
John Watson 29
Nellie C Watson 27
Jessie G Watson 25
James C Watson 23
Agnes O Watson 20
David M Watson 16
Jeanie E Brown 16

Conitnued.....

















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 18:05

Angus

Looking forward here is the 1901 of the family.Mother Margaret is not present?Maybe away of the night of the census or maybe she had died?

1901 Scotland Census
about John Watson
Name: John Watson
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relationship: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Irvine, Abdnshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rosemount
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: No 41 Belvidere St
Occupation: Dyer
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 189
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 68
Margaret C Watson 41
James Watson 34
Agnes Watson 36
David MacKie 26
Mary Duguid 15

1901 Scotland Census
about Margaret C Watson
Name: Margaret C Watson
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Abdnshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rosemount
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: No 41 Belvidere St
Occupation: Feather Dresser
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 189
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 68
Margaret C Watson 41
James Watson 34
Agnes Watson 36
David MacKie 26
Mary Duguid 15

1901 Scotland Census
about James Watson
Name: James Watson
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeen, Abdnshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rosemount
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: No 41 Belvidere St
Occupation: Baker
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 189
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 68
Margaret C Watson 41
James Watson 34
Agnes Watson 36
David MacKie 26
Mary Duguid 15

1901 Scotland Census
about Agnes Watson
Name: Agnes Watson
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdeen, Abdnshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rosemount
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: No 41 Belvidere St
Occupation: Housekeeper (dom)
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 189
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 68
Margaret C Watson 41
James Watson 34
Agnes Watson 36
David MacKie 26
Mary Duguid 15

1901 Scotland Census
about David MacKie
Name: David MacKie
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: England
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rosemount
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: No 41 Belvidere St
Occupation: Assistant Dentist
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 189
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 68
Margaret C Watson 41
James Watson 34
Agnes Watson 36
David MacKie 26
Mary Duguid 15

1901 Scotland Census
about Mary Duguid
Name: Mary Duguid
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Esslemont, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 168/2
Registration district: St Machar
Civil parish: Aberdeen Rosemount
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: No 41 Belvidere St
Occupation: General Dom Serv
ED: 47
Household schedule number: 189
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_59
Household Members: Name Age
John Watson 68
Margaret C Watson 41
James Watson 34
Agnes Watson 36
David MacKie 26
Mary Duguid 15
















Rachelel

Rachelel Report 3 Feb 2010 16:16

Thanks so much for your help Im hoping that is the right family I will dig out all my info and look at it all tonight to confirm

As the surname has a spelling difference maybe thats where I have got stuck

The occupation of father on marrige cert is Hawker

Many Thanks
Rachel

Emily

Emily Report 3 Feb 2010 14:07

HI Michelle

Wondered if you would be able to help me with a new census search, for the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census. For Samuel Stone born 1876 Stanley common, Derbyshire.

I know at some point he moved to heanor and he married a Harriet Gillot and then a Elizabeth canlin (nee spencer).

Samuel and his first wife had 4 children names Elsie, Charles E, Harry and Eva but i am struggling to find their births my grandmother belives they where born between 1901 and 1909 @ heanor but says the births would be registered at Basford.

I really hope that you can help me.

thanks Emily

Pam

Pam Report 3 Feb 2010 11:30

Hi Michelle

Thank you so much for your time and effort on this one

l'll look into the possibility of them leaving the country

Thanks again

Pam

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 00:41

If i have not posted your lookup yet it is because i am still looking. I have had a few long ones to work on which take time.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 00:37

Rachel

1851 Continued....

1851 England Census
about Samuel Lincs
Name: Samuel Lincs
[Samuel Lynes]
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

1851 England Census
about Martha Lincs
Name: Martha Lincs
[Martha Lynes]
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

Samuel a Labourer

Address Redfield





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 3 Feb 2010 00:34

Rachel

I wonder if this might be Samuel with his parents and siblings. Could you let me know occupation of father on the marriage cert?

1851 England Census
about Samuel Lincs
Name: Samuel Lincs
[Samuel Lynes]
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

1851 England Census
about Martha Lincs
Name: Martha Lincs
[Martha Lynes]
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Samuel
Gender: Female
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

1851 England Census
about Henry Lincs
Name: Henry Lincs
[Henry Lynes]
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

1851 England Census
about John Lincs
Name: John Lincs
[John Lynes]
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

1851 England Census
about Caroline Lincs
Name: Caroline Lincs
[Caroline Lynes]
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Ashley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Lincs 34
Martha Lincs 36
Henry Lincs 14
John Lincs 10
Caroline Lincs 8
Samuel Lincs 5
Martha Lincs 1

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Linda

Linda Report 2 Feb 2010 21:12

Hi Michelle,
because I hadn't been able to identify the right children in the right place at the right time! I have had another look and have now found births on FreeBMD of Mary Ann 1852 and John 1853 in Brighton, so I could send for one of those. But no trace of any of the others - wonder if the census listed their birth places wrongly. IGI has James Peter Penfold christened Ardingly 28 July 1850, parents John Penfold and Eleanor. Hmmm. Looks like James born out of wedlock.
This was a family I filled in on my tree quite early on and committed the cardinal sin of not noting where/who I got the info from! Hmmm again! Thanks for looking - much appreciated.
cheers, Linda

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 2 Feb 2010 20:54

Pam

No luck sorry...i think you should look into the possiblity that at least 1 of them left the country?Maybe you should check this avenue next.

Michelle

Rachelel

Rachelel Report 2 Feb 2010 20:03

Hi Michelle

I seem to be stuck on finding info on Samuel Lines/Lynes I have estimated birth as 1847 Birth place Bristol/Gloucester area.
I have his wedding cert 1872 to a Mary Ann Clark on this his father is listed also as Samuel Lines. I also have the list of his children.

I cannot seem to trace his birth or connect him to his father or know who is mother is or if infact he had any siblings

any help appreciated

Thanks
Rachel

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 2 Feb 2010 19:33

Linda

Can i ask why you haven't got the birth cert of 1 of the children to see mother's maiden name?

There are 2 or 3 marriage showing on the marriage records with spose missing...i am wondering if 1 of these is your John's wife.
I am also wondering whether the eldest son James was Eleanors son?He was listed as born 1849 on the census...the census records aren't also spot on with ages so its possible it could be out.If it is correct John is listed as single living at home in 1851.
I have been working on yours and i am still working at present on it.So check back later to see whether i have had any luck.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 2 Feb 2010 00:34

Hi all

Sorry i wasn't online tonight was busy in my home life!So will look at your requests tomorrow night after i finish work

Michelle :)

Pam

Pam Report 1 Feb 2010 16:03

Hi Michelle

Yes the boys are with their mother and 2 sister's on the 61 in Sedgley
Surname transcribed as Pauntney
Hannah aged 61 widow
Sarah aged 18
Phobe aged 16
William aged 13
Daniel aged 8
This is where the Daniel comes in. l don't know if David died or left home or if it is the right family!
l posted a look up request and it is what freewheel gave me in the reply. At the moment it is on page 8

Pam

Angus

Angus Report 1 Feb 2010 11:32

Michelle,
Thanks for your offer.
I have the following who appear in the 1881, living at 3 Belvidere Street , Aberdeen GRO vol 168-2 32 31 ,
John Watson 48 yrs
Margaret Watson 44 yrs. living with children
Margaret 21yrs,John 19yrs,Helena 17 yrs, Janet 16 yrs,James 14yrs,Agnes 11yrs and David 6 yrs.
I believe that John married Margret Collie cica 1857. Could you look forward and backwards in the census to see if you can find them.
I am particularily interested in John snr. and links back to his birth place of IRVINE.Thanks
Angus.

Linda

Linda Report 1 Feb 2010 11:10

Hi Michelle,
I have a brick wall, in that I can't find two marriages on either IGI or FreeBMD. John Penfold (1824-1907 Patcham, Brighton, variously described as cordwainer, shoemaker or bootmaker) In 1851 John was 27, unmarried, still living with parents James and Fanny. First wife Eleanor, born c1826 Brighton appears on 1861 census, age 35, occupation shoebinder, with children James 12, Mary 9, John 8, Eliza 6, Sarah Ann (my great grandmother) 4, Rosina 2 and Alfred 4 months. 1871, still in Brighton, John aged 47, bootmaker, wife Jane 41, children Sarah A 14, Alice 8, Annie L 3 and Frederick 1. Someone else's tree had Jane as Jane Elliott, born Brighton 1831, died 1901. But I can't find either marriage and can't find Eleanor's maiden name. If you can get through my brick wall I'd be ever so grateful! Thanks.
Linda