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Pam

Haven't forgotten you.Have looked and found nothing as yet.I have asked you a couple of questions above on the thread and could you let me have the answers and then i will look further.

Thanks

Michelle

Sophia

Hi well don't think you are going wrong...this has had me puzzled also.There is a huge confusion over the spelling of the surname which shows as 2 spellings on the marriage list! Now i have found what looks like the family on the 1881 BUT what has confused me is Michael is going by the name John J??there is Bridget there and her details all match the 1891 there is John J junior with all details matching.There is an extra child called Michael whom i have found a death for in a variation of the surname.So is this your family??Now what makes it more confusing is this family i have found are living in New Street!Occupation of the 2 records is the same also Bricklayers Labourer.
Have you got any of the certs for this family?Just wondering which is the correct spelling??
Although looking at the 1901 you have as Farney i have a record with it as Tarney same as this 1881 record i have.
Well take a look and see what you think

1881 England Census
about John J. Tarney
Name: John J. Tarney
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Wakefield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: New Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer (Bricklayer)

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J. Tarney 26
Bridget Tarney 22
John J. Tarney 4
Michael Tarney 1

1881 England Census
about Bridget Tarney
Name: Bridget Tarney
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John J.
Gender: Female
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wakefield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: New Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J. Tarney 26
Bridget Tarney 22
John J. Tarney 4
Michael Tarney 1

1881 England Census
about John J. Tarney
Name: John J. Tarney
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John J.
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wakefield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: New Street
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J. Tarney 26
Bridget Tarney 22
John J. Tarney 4
Michael Tarney 1

1881 England Census
about Michael Tarney
Name: Michael Tarney
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John J.
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Wakefield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wakefield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: New Street
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wakefield
Sub-registration district: Wakefield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John J. Tarney 26
Bridget Tarney 22
John J. Tarney 4
Michael Tarney 1

Notice the address New Street! Well looks like in 1882 poor little Michael aged 1 above died

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Michael Tarney
Name: Michael Tarney
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 2
District: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 40 (click to see others on page)

Again listed as Tarney.The trouble is in those days when people gave names for records if they had an accent mistakes were made.Especially if the person couldnt write and just spoke his name.Maybe this is what has happened here?Michael giving information to the gentleman taking the census and not being heard correctly?Or maybe Tarney is the correct surname?

Do you have the both the 1891 and 1901?I presumed you did as you had mentioned them.I do not have access to the 1911 however not on the site i use.
Will see what else i can find.

Pam

Hi,have started to look at your brick wall. Couple of questions:

Have you seen them on any other census records other than the 1851-61?
Have you looked at the option that they have left the country?


I will carry on looking, on 1st glance this looks like a long search so i will in the meantime move on after i have looked for a while onto my next look up and wait to hear from you re above questions.

Thanks
Michelle

Michelle

i hope you can help me....

I am looking for Michael Tahany and his wife Bridget Tahany they were living at 35 New Street, whitehead Row at the time of the 1891 census.
Michael and his family are listed below:
John Tahany
james Tahany
Winifred Tahany
Patrick Tahany
William Tahany
Bridget Tahany
Mary Tahany and
Frank Tahany

They don't appear on any census before and they appear on the 1901 census as 'Farney' (living in wakefield) and have disappeared on the 1911 census

Could you have a little look to see where i'm going wrong please

Many Thanks

Sophia

Hi Michelle,
How stupid of me, I'm confusing myself and forgetting who I'm looking for. Lol.
Thank you very much.

Sandra

Hi Michelle

l hope your ready for this brickwall.
This surname varies between Powney. Pauntney and Perny
l have my husbands Powney ancestor's on the 1841/51 and 61 but there is no sign of 2 of them on the 71. l have checked for marriages and deaths but no sign.

1st is William Powney c1848 Sedgley. Staffordshire
2nd is Daniel/David c1850/2 Sedgley Staffordshire.
l give you two names for the 2nd son as l have been given a David 1850 or a Daniel 1852 on 2 different look ups for them as l cannot see the census l don't know which is right.

The 2 boys above are at home on the 1851 with their parents
William c1811 Sedgley. Staffs Pauper Coal Miner
Hannah c1810 Devon.
John c1834 Sedgley
Lydia c1838 .............
Sarah c1842 ..............
Phoebe c1845

l have their older siblings on census but have only just started to look for these 2

Thank you in advance

Pam

Sandra

It says Thomas is the Grandson. This was the only Letson family on the 1851 census in the area that you mentioned John Letson was born. Of course we can't say for certain this is John's family but it looks very possible.Based on the birthyear of 1824 and looking at the possible siblings i would say Thomas and Nancy are the parents.The eldest sibling listed is Thomas above aged 35 in 1851.In 1851 your John would have been about 27 putting him as 2nd youngest in the list above of siblings.Arthur being the youngest.
I looked hard and there is very little more to find.You should now contact Irish records office to see if they hold any information of birth records in that area.Records for Ireland are not good some have been destroyed over the years.
As i mentioned before my area i work on is 1841-1901 and is mainly English records as i have access to good resources for these.
Good luck!

Michelle

hi michelle

thanks for that information. its a great help

emily

Michelle,
Thank you very much. I think they did marry in Ireland.
I really do appreciate your help. Now I have to work out which one is his mum, Mary Ann or Jane? as it says he is the grandson.

Sandra

Sandra

On another site

Name Residence
(ED, County) Birth Place Gender Age
View Record
Jane Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Female 29
View Record
Mary Ann Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Female 32
View Record
Nancy Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Female 77
View Record
Arthur Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Male 26
View Record
Thomas Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Male 5
View Record
Thomas Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Male 79
View Record
Thomas Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Male 35
View Record
William Letson Ballinderry, Antrim Antrim, Ireland Male 3

1851 United Kingdom Census Sample
about Thomas Letson
Name: Thomas Letson
Address: Crew Park Townland
Enumeration District: Ballinderry
County: Antrim
Birth Place: Antrim, Ireland
Age: 5
Gender: Male
Relationship: Grandson
Marriage Status: Unmarried
Occupation: At Kernoghan School
Household: View other family members

This family are the only one's for Letson showing on the 1851 census..and area matches your John.

Sandra

I found this 1851 fragment on an online site...wonder if this was John's family?
1851 Census Return Fragments for Ballinderry, County Antrim, Ireland

CREW PARK TOWNLAND , Ballinderry County Antrim (1851)
THOMAS LETSON, HEAD, M, 79, FARMER, County Antrim,
NANCY LETSON, WIFE, M, 77, NONE, County Antrim,
THOMAS LETSON, SON, U, 35, PLOUGHMAN, County Antrim,
MARY ANN LETSON, DAUGHTER, U, 32, HOUSEKEEPER, County Antrim,
JANE LETSON, DAUGHTER, U, 29, NONE, County Antrim,
ARTHUR LETSON, SON, U, 26, LINEN WEAVER, County Antrim,
THOMAS LETSON, GRANDSON, U, 5, AT KERNOGHAN SCHOOL, County Antrim,
WILLIAM LETSON, GRANDSON, U, 3, NONE, County Antrim

See what else i can find

Do you know where he married?if it was Scotland you could get the marriage record off Scottish gov site and that would show parents names and if they are same as census above then bingo!Oh i expect you will say they married in Ireland :(

Emily

1871 Continued...

1871 England Census
about Thomas Noon
Name: Thomas Noon
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about Ruth Noon
Name: Ruth Noon
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Female
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about Amos Noon
Name: Amos Noon
Age: 5 months
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

John a Engine Driver
Aaron John and William Coal Miners

Address listed as Peacock Town

Marriage of the couple

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Hannah Elizabeth Herring 1873 Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
View Record
Aaron Noon 1873 Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Aaron Noon
Name: Aaron Noon
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 184 (click to see others on page)

This looks like the marriage of the parents with 2 spellings listed

John Noon 1849 Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
View Record
Fanney Rigley 1849 Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
View Record
Fanny Rigley 1849 Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Noon
Name: John Noon
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 15
Page: 619 (click to see others on page)

Emily

1871

1871 England Census
about Aaron Noon
Name: Aaron Noon
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Berchwood, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about Fanny Noon
Name: Fanny Noon
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Newthorpe, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about John Noon
Name: John Noon
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Horsley; Woodhouse, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about John Noon
Name: John Noon
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about William Noon
Name: William Noon
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about Christopher Noon
Name: Christopher Noon
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

1871 England Census
about Christopher Noon
Name: Christopher Noon
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Peacock Town, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Heanor
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
John Noon 42
Fanny Noon 42
Aaron Noon 19
John Noon 16
William Noon 14
Christopher Noon 9
Thomas Noon 6
Ruth Noon 3
Amos Noon 5 months

Continue.....

Emily

No birthyears given?But i have found them

1881

1881 England Census
about Aaron Noon
Name: Aaron Noon
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Hannah Elizabth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Alfreton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Fall Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

1881 England Census
about Hannah Elizabth. Noon
Name: Hannah Elizabth. Noon
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Aaron
Gender: Female
Where born: Lowdam, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Fall Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

1881 England Census
about John Herring
Name: John Herring
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah Elizabth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Fall Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

1881 England Census
about Herbert Noon
Name: Herbert Noon
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah Elizabth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street Address: Fall Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Basford
Sub-registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

Michelle,
Thank you. I know Elizabeth died 18 July 1885 at East Stewart St,Greenock,Renfrewshire. I don't know when her husband William died.
Hope this helps a bit.

Sandra

Sandra

I will take a look later for you but i do not have access to Irish records and only have Scottish census records and no BMD records for Scotland.Will take a look though when i am on here later today.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,
I posted on page 156 and I think you may have missed it. Can you please try and help me with this as I just can't find nothing.

Thank you,

Sandra

Hi Michelle

Would it be possible to get a couple of census look ups please.

1871 census and 1881 census for Aaron Noon and Hannah Noon (nee Herring) I believe that they had a son called John. Hannah was born in Lowdham, but i believe that they moved to Heanor, derbyshire.

I hope that you can help me.

Thanks Emily

hi the marriage between her and william im pretty sure is right

im also pretty sure thats her on the census as well
the only thing i still cant find is the missing lehm brother (im starting to think he doesnt exsist and my nan has it wrong)

and maud ethel cussell's father so im off to look a little harder now

thank u once again for all your help

Kirsten

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Maud Z Cussell
Name: Maud Z Cussell
Spouse Surname: Murray
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Southwark
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 252
Find Spouse: Find Spouse

William Murray Cussell Jan-Feb-Mar 1916 Southwark Surrey

Is this her?

1901 England Census
about Maud Ethel Lehm Cussell
Name: Maud Ethel Lehm Cussell
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Workhouse Child (Workhouse)
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Hanwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanwell St Mary and St Mark
Town: Hanwell
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: Central London District Schools
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1