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AMENDED 1861 census Eliza Mary Wilson

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Marian

Marian Report 15 Dec 2008 16:33

Could someone please look at the 1861 census for Eliza Mary Wilson born c1856 at Whitby yorkshire. Fathers name John. thanks

Thelma

Thelma Report 15 Dec 2008 16:52

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1861 England Census
about Elizth M Wilson
Name: Elizth M Wilson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Elizh
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Stranton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: West Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Edwad Turner 34
Elizh Turner 29
John H Wilson 9
Jane E Wilson 7
Elizth M Wilson 4
Edward Turner 1
William Robinson 24



Marian

Marian Report 16 Dec 2008 09:05

Thank you. I had to go away from the board so am only replying now. This is a surprise. I had expected her and family in Whitby and didn't think her mother would have been a widow and remarried.
Regards - Marian

Marian

Marian Report 21 Nov 2022 15:44

Hello, this post is about Jane Elizabeth (born born September quarter 1853 at Whitby), Eliza Mary's sister. She is a witness at Eliza Jane's marriage in 1874, still single. I can't find Jane on the 1881 census. She marries someone called ???Hutchinson/Hutchenson but I can't find marriage or the date. Below is the 1891 census and 1901 census

1891 census 20 Rokeby Street Stranton Hartlepool

Thomas Turner 27 married sail maker West H'Pool
Margaret A 22 wife Sunderland
Elizabeth Ferguson 58 mother married Whitby
Jane Hutchenson 34 married
Margaret Porritt 16 granddaughter

1901 census 22 Dundas Street West Hartlepool

Thomas Turner 38 married sail maker West H’Pool
Margaret A Turner 30 wife Sunderland
John W Turner 9
Elizabeth 7
Thomas H 0
Elizabeth Ferguson 67 widowed mother in law Whitby - Margaret must have filled census form in
Edward Docherty 69 widowed ship carpenter lodger South Shields
Jane Hutchinson 48 widowed domestic servant Whitby

Jane is married on 1891 census but widowed on 1901 census. Can't find her on 1911 census. There is a marriage for a Jane Elizabeth Hutchinson to Joseph Clark 1915 at Hartlepool. I haven't got marriage certificate so am assuming this is Jane but no actual proof. On 1921 census there is Joseph Clark (1840) Jane Elizabeth Clark (1852 born Whitby) and two others, at West Hartlepool (found by hovering on image). Death for Jane Elizabeth 1932 age 79 at Hartlepool.
Please can anyone find Jane?
Also, for reasons unknown, their mother Elizabeth Turner now calls herself Ferguson!
Thank you



greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Nov 2022 16:32

The 1861 census for places of birth

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
24, Dover Street, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Turner Head Married Male 34 1827 Iron moulder Preston, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Turner Wife Married Female 29 1832 - Whitby, Yorkshire, England
John H Wilson Nephew - Male 9 1852 - Whitby, Yorkshire, England
Jane E Wilson Stepdaughter - Female 7 1854 - Whitby, Yorkshire, England
Elizabeth M Wilson Daughter - Female 4 1857 - Whitby, Yorkshire, England
Edward Turner Son - Male 1 1860 - Hartlepool, Durham, England
William Robinson Boarder Unmarried Male 24 1837 Seaman Yorkshire, England


and the 1871 which you don't mention -

Jane and Eliza are still with Edward Turner, their step father who is listed as married

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Robinson Street, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Edward Turner Head - Male 44 1827 - Lancashire, England
Edward Turner Son - Male 11 1860 - Durham, England
Thomas Turner Son - Male 8 1863 - Durham, England
Jane E Wilson Step daughter - Female 17 1854 - Yorkshire, England
Eliza M Wilson Step daughter - Female 15 1856 - Yorkshire, England

Do you know where Elizabeth is at this point?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Nov 2022 16:38

1921 Census Of England & Wales
50 Bk, Albert Street, West Hartlepool, Durham, England
Joseph Clark Head Male 1840 81 Cumberland, England Timber Yard Foreman Ill
Jane Elizabeth Clark Wife Female 1852 68 Whitby, Yorkshire, England Home Duties At Home
Jack Cram Boarder Male 1876 45 Durham, Durham, England Timber Carrier J W Baird & Sons Timber Merchant
Jessie Robson Boarder Female 1876 44 Durham, Durham, England Home Duties At Home

Marian

Marian Report 21 Nov 2022 16:45

Hello Grey, yes below is 1871 census for Elizabeth

1871 High Street Seaton Carew

Elizabeth Turner 38 laundress Whitby with family called Stroves.

Thank you Erika for posting the 1921 census and using your credits.

Marian

Marian Report 21 Nov 2022 16:47

Also: 1881 census Catherine Street Hartlepool

Elizabeth Turner 49 sailor’s wife Whitby
Thomas 18 sail maker West Hartlepool

1881 census licensed lodging house Stranton Hartlepool

Edward Turner 55 married moulder iron lodger - possibly died 1883

greyghost

greyghost Report 21 Nov 2022 17:02

So in 1871 both Edward and Elizabeth Turner say they are married but they are perhaps not living together.

Seaton Carew is shown as in Hartlepool area

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Licenced Lodging House, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England

First name(s) Edward
Street -
Last name Turner
Parish Stranton
Relationship Lodger
County Durham
Marital status Married
Country England
Sex Male
Registration district Hartlepool
Age 55
Sub district Hartlepool
Age as transcribed 55
Archive reference RG11
Birth year 1826
Piece number 4909
Birth town Preston
Folio 31
Birth town as transcribed PRESTON
Page 4
Birth county Lancashire
Schedule 235
Birth county as transcribed LANCASHIRE
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Birth place England
Category Census, land & surveys
Occupation Moulder (iron)
Subcategory Census
Full address Licenced Lodging House, Stranton, Hartlepool, Durham, England
Collections from Great Britain, England
House name Licenced Lodging House


? Have you got the correct Elizabeth in 1881 as you show her as a Sailor's wife, (unless she is living with a Sailor called Ferguson and at some point took his name).

Edward is an Iron Moulder in 1861/1871/1881

Marian

Marian Report 21 Nov 2022 17:12

Yes Gray, I believe 1881 census to be the same Elizabeth, she is living with her son Thomas Turner as per 1881 census. Her first husband William Wilson was a sailor.