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And of course, Evelyn does state quite openly that her mother told many lies. :-(

Yes I am doing an online genealogy course and that is talking about finding records and checking them against another source where possible

However, we do only have Diane's word that her father was deceased


How many of us have looked in vain for deaths before a wedding, only to find father was still alive?

Thanks Cynthia for reply. I must have missed (or forgot) that he was possibly deceased by 1929

Ooops....only just spotted this...sorry!


It rings a bell to be honest but, Diane had her father as deceased prior to her marriage in 1929. Haven't looked at anything for ages but am still in touch with Evelyn. Maybe there are some new records we ought to be looking at....................?


Thanks for maintained interest...x

Has this Robert been looked at?

First name(s) ROBERT LOCKHART R
Last name MACLEOD
Marriage year 1896
Marriage place RANGOON
Country BURMA
Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
Page 175
Line number 46
Record source GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
Record set British nationals armed forces marriages 1796-2005

Them in 1939?
MacLeod Household
?67 Park Road , Brentford and Chiswick M.B., Middlesex, England
? Robert L R MacLeod 20 Sep 1863 Male Colonel Ram Retired Married 175 1
? Jessie M MacLeod 25 Jul 1872 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 175 2

***Ram image says RAMC (so that's royal army medical corps)

Scotland's people have released the Valuation Rolls for 1930. Free to search until 17th March

only a few posts before, in November, Cynthia had posted the 1939 info from Viv, and confirmed, when I queried, that Jan was a mistranscription of Jun for the birthdate ...

and Evelyn said at that time:
Dads birthdate is correct 12th March 1908.
The other three entries on that list would be Ian, myself and Rodney, Robert was born later.

I don't understand why we're chasing Herbert :-)

I'm sure this has been posted at least once before .............. but let's get it close to the 1939 Register!

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Herbert Robert J Roy
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1908
Date of Registration: Dec 1977
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 23
Page: 0955

Hello Pat and thank you.

It seems as though Herbert joined the Army so maybe that is why there is no other address for him. Also, perhaps the women and children were evacuees? Good of you to offer your help - very grateful. :-)

From 1939 Register

Diane L Roy 04 Jan 1906 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Birth date transcribed wrong it's June.

Herbert R J Roy 12 Mar 1908 Fitters Labourer The White Head Torpedo Company Limited
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

At both sides against Diane's name in red pen see page 6 Book ???. After book on the left side the section area is covered by a mark and unreadable and on the right the page is cut off straight after book.

This is the other entry transcription

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Diane L Roy 04 Jun 1906 Udd
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.


2 other closed records on original copy. Both entries for 5 Dorset Place. Both say married and unpaid domestic duties. No idea why there was a the notation and a new entry for Diane but others on that page appear to be reentries, all woman married with children and no husbands named. Same reference number in both entries.

Herbert didn't die until the 1970s and I can't find a new address on the 1939 Register for him as he has only 1 entry. Wonder if it's to do with the children as Diane's entries are identical.

Nothing is simple with Diane but 4th June 1906 seems to be her birth.

I now have free access to 1939 Register if anything else is wanted for here. :-)

Aha. Glad I asked! Never trust a transcription. :-)

'my' Emerentiana Leslie's birthday was two days off ...


23 March EDIT -

the baptism image is available at findmypast and gives Emerentiana Monica Leslie's baptism date as 2 June 1906 'said to be born' 23 May 1906
John Francis Leslie's occupation as Dist Cass fund [?] Supervisor

Silly thought, but if her birthday was very close to Christmas, maybe she celebrated in in June so that she didn´t miss out on celebrations.
Clutching at straws here.

When the old bat finally emerged she posted the original of the date and yes, it does look like JUN. So Evelyn was right.

Thanks Ann....I will pass that info onto Viv. :-D


Tabitha.....I never left. Have been here since 2003 but spend much more time elsewhere......wink wink. Still do my messaging each day on here though. :-D

There's a Will for a Sir Norman Cranstoun Macleod, knight, who died in Surrey in 1945, aged 78. Probate granted to Margaret Macleod, spinster. This might be the Margaret mentioned above, bapt Feb 1906

Cynthia - the rumors were wrong - you are still on GR

Why are you not on THE thread anymore - i am left wondering around on my own :-(

Does this mean Diane has told the truth about her Age for once - but not her name

SylviaInCanada has passed your query on to Viv Joonie. Just waiting for her to turn up out of her belfry! :-D

(looks in, acknowledges latest from the 'FBG' one, lol)

Thanks Cynthia, for update.

Chris :)

is it possible that

04 Jan 1906

is a misreading/mistranscription of Jun?

I'm not sure whether Viv is seeing an original doc or a transcription