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Can we have the full names of Evelyn's brothers, please? (and any explanation where their christian names may have come from - ie Evelyn's Dads family, perhaps)

Okay folks.....here we go.........


DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?


No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.


Possibilities: This is not her real name.

DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc. - nothing found.


LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name but maybe we need to do more.


MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.


Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’.

***This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful.

That family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?
Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.

*** PLEASE NOTE. LAST YEAR, A MEMBER OF THE ABOVE FAMILY CONTACTED US TO SAY THAT DIANE IS NOT CONNECTED TO THEM.


Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name.

Other local schools have been contacted but there is nothing to be found under D.L.M.


Some doubt has emerged as to whether or not Tarbat is the right place to be looking as it is too far away from Stornoway.


There is no sign of a DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41


The first absolute sighting we have of her is when she started work at Springfield
7.6.1927 - 19.6.1928. There are, apparently, no more notes in her file.


In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown.


The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.


Our Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:


Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. It looks very much as though this was a house which had lodgers.


Some research has been done on the other occupants but nothing worthwhile was found.


Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details.


Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that. We have, over the last couple of years, drawn up a fairly comprehensive family tree for the G-Fs but simply cannot trace the connection.


Just before the search drew to a halt last year, Evelyn remembered her mother reading a local newspaper (Dorset?)in the early 1950's and finding either an article or an obituary about a very old lady who had died in Stornoway aged 91. She stated that it was Aunt Kate.


Scotland's People was searched for possible deaths but again, we drew a blank. It would be helpful if we could get a copy of that newspaper but that's rather a longshot I think - unless ????


So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts.


If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.


EDIT. FBG's search re the elderly lady's death, can be found between pages 80-89.


Kay.....from the synopsis - that's where I'd seen the name Kirby.... :-)

1911
KIRBY, Edward T Head Married M 39 1872 Congregational Minister London Clerkenwell
KIRBY, Agnes M Wife Married10 years F 40 1871 Lanark Glasgow Resident
KIRBY, Kenneth Macleod Son M 1 1910 Midddlesex Whetstone
MACLEOD, Helen Visitor Widow F 75 1836 Ayrshire Kilmarnock Resident
OUTEN, Margaret Servant Single F 17 1894 General Servant Domestic Hants Havant
RG number: RG14
Piece: 5474
Reference: RG14PN5474 RG78PN250 RD89 SD1 ED11 SN206
Registration District: Havant
Sub District: Havant
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Havant
Address: The Manse West Street Havant
County: Hampshire

1901
KIRBY, Edward Tait Head Married M 29 1872 Congregational Minister
Islington, London
KIRBY, Agnes M Wife Married F 30 1871
Glasgow Scotland
CHESTERS, Martha Servant Single F 18 1883 Domestic Servant
Hope Parish Mold, Flintshire
Piece: 3539
Folio: 137
Page: 22
Registration District: Ormskirk
Civil Parish: Southport
Municipal Borough:
Address: 24, Marsden Road, Southport
County: Lancashire

Chris :)

Khartoum Rd
London Borough of Newham, London E13

(is that above Kay?)

1891
MACLEOD, Donald Head Married M 60 1831 Minister Of Park Parish
Campsie, Stirlingshire N/A
MACLEOD, Isabella Wife Married F 56 1835
Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire N/A
MACLEOD, Agnes M Daughter Unmarried F 20 1871
Partick, Lanarkshire N/A
MACLEOD, Norman Son Unmarried M 18 1873 Clerk (Accountants)
Glasgow, Lanarkshire N/A
ROBERTSON, Wm Visitor Married M 44 1847 Clergy Man Church Of Sectd
Edinr, Midlothian N/A
MCCREATH, Margaret Servant Unmarried F 20 1871 General Domestic Serv
Ballantrae, Ayrshire N/A
MUNRO, Mary Servant Unmarried F 32 1859 General Domestic Serv
Inverary G & E, Argyllshire N/A
FINLAYSON, Isabella Servant Unmarried F 30 1861 General Domestic Serv
Lochalsh G & E, Invernessshire N/A
Piece: 644
Folio: 48
Page: 21
Registration District: Kelvin
Civil Parish: Barony
Municipal Borough:
Address: Woodlands Terrace, Barony
County: Lanarkshire

I'm spending a little time going through the thread again........

Kay, is this the D. L. MacLeod you mention??


This is from a couple of years ago: sorry, didn't copy which of you kind people found it.....


I wonder if these people have anything to do with Diana
UK incoming passenger list

Dora Leslie Macleod
BIRTH:
abt 1881
DEPARTURE:
La Plata, Argentina
ARRIVAL:
4 May 1939 - London, England
OTHER:
La Plata
It say's single ,occupation ,student

then I find her at 47b Harrington gardens Kensington and Chelsea from 1946-1949

they are the only references to her I can find could she be the mother of Diane ? or am I getting to far ahead


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Right, the name Kirby rings a bell will see if i can find it and will also post the last synopsis I managed to do. :-D

Does anyone know the names of the KIRBYs at Khartoum Road,,,,,,,which isnt in Wandsworth its in Tooting...another is in E13.

Is an exact date of birth known for Diane?

Agnes Meikleham Macleod

Edward Tait Kirby married in Edmonton London 1900......I think Agnes shows as bn Glasgow in 1911.?

I'm seeing MacLeods wherever I look these days.... :-D

Thank you for all your efforts, please feel free to follow any leads or links which you think may help.

I have asked Evelyn if she could please let me have the details from her mother's marriage certificate but she can't do anything until the weekend. Even seeing who the witnesses are would be helpful - I think FBG saw a copy of it a couple of years ago.

Kay, I know many passenger lists were looked at re MacLeods but nothing could be found. We certainly won't rule them out though.


Yes, Annie, Diane WAS a fibber apparently - which certainly doesn't help one iota :-(


Like many of you, I just don't understand how a person can suddenly appear, working at Springfield Hospital, and there be no paper trail behind them...... :-S


Very grateful....... :-)

Just a very long shot.

This is Evelyn's post from 2009

Evelyn Report 11 Mar 2009 20:49
I have seen my mothers marriage certificate and it gives her father as Robert Macleod , Major Seaforth Highlanders ,deceased.
She married my father Herbert Robert John Roy in Wandsworth in 1929 and died on 28th July 1953 in Weymouth dorset.
Mum was 46 when she died


So I am looking at the marriage details - and wonder about the following:

Evelyn said she has 'seen' the marriage certificate - is it the original - or from GRO. Either way has anyone seen the original marriage record (is it possible to see it?) - wondering if, just if, there might be something in the parish register in Wandsworth? I have checked (on a different thread) about amendments/ notations in margins, not saying there will be anything but........

There are many just as an initial and not in full name on incoming passenger lists,,,

D L Macleod,

Miss D Macleod.

etc........

Diane seems to have fibbed about a lot of things so I wouldn't say that the fact she said her father was deceased at the time of her marriage is necessarily true!

Marriage of John Leslie Macleod.

Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: John L Macleod married Olive S Watson
Name: MACLEOD, John L
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1933
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Watson
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 913

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Name: WATSON, Olive S
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1933
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Macleod
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 913

1911
MACLEOD, Charles Edward Alexander Head Married12 years M 43 1868 Surgeon Brindisi Italy
MACLEOD, Edith Ann Wife Married12 years F 37 1874 Twickenham Middlesex
MACLEOD, Alexander Cameron Son M 11 1900 Scholar Notting Hill London
MACLEOD, Douglas Hamilton Son M 9 1902 Scholar Notting Hill London
MACLEOD, John Leslie Son M 7 1904 Scholar Notting Hill London
MACLEOD, Muriel Edith Daughter F 2 1909 Notting Hill London
KING, Amy Gartried Domestic Nurse Single F 24 1887 Domestic Servant Colchester Essex
BROWN, Naomi Housemaid Single F 21 1890 Domestic Servant Lorklamington
SILVER, Louisa Domestic Cook Single F 32 1879 Domestic Servant Hammersmith London
VINCENT, Edward Jesse Butler Domestic Single F 23 1888 Domestic Servant Epsom Surrey
RG number: RG14
Piece: 147
Reference: RG14PN147 RG78PN5 RD2 SD2 ED8 SN304
Registration District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington Central
Enumeration District: 8
Parish: Kensington
Address: 70b Ladbroke Grove
County: London

(above goes with Baptism, born 23rd May 1903, 76, Ladbroke Grove, Father Occ. Doctor of Medicine)

Chris :)

His Death. Will look for everything I can find inbetween the dates.

...

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: MACLEOD, John Leslie

Registration district: Cuckfield
County: Sussex
Year of registration: 1969
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of birth: 23 May 1903
Volume no: 5H
Page no: 504

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: MACLEOD, John Leslie

Registration district: Kensington
County: London
Year of registration: 1903
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 1A
Page no: 144


Snap Kay,,

Just wondering if this is a sibling to DLM..

London Bapt ...

John Leslie Macleod,,,,,,,

first time Ive seen the two surnames linked.

Cynthia (or someone) who might know

I presume Evelyn has a copy of her mother's marriage cert - I am just trying some (more) lateral thinking, can you recall when and where it was - was it a parish register or a register office?

Thanks

J-A

Name: Robert Lockhart Ross Macleod
Probate Date: 24 Feb 1944
Death Date: 19 Dec 1943
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: Llandudno

(of 67, Park Road, Chiswick, died 12, Ladbroke Terrace. Probate to Jessie Mckay Macleod, widow. £10476 7s 3d)

Chris :)

Name: Jessie Mackay MacLeod
Probate Date: 10 Oct 1956
Death Date: 25 Aug 1956
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Registry: London, England

(of 25, Ellesmere Road, Chiswick, widow, died Clayponds Hospital, Ealing. Probate to Messrs. Holt and Company Trustees. £ 16346 2s 6d)

this could be the RLR above
DEATH INDEX
Name:
Robert L R Macleod
Birth Date:
abt 1863
Date of Registration:
Oct-Nov-Dec 1943
Age at Death:80
Registration district:Kensington
Inferred County:London
Volume:1a
Page:175

Applying a bit of lateral thinking here. ;-)
Has anybody made any enquiries from the Macleod clan historians?
Associated Clan Macleod Societies of Edinburgh
www.clanmacleodgenealogy.corg/
Anything is worth a try.

a scroll on Ancestry to the far left shows.

Rank--- Major,,,,Macleod RLR.

Cynthia,

How old was Diane supposed to be on her marriage cert please.
Ta