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Trying to find mother

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Jooleh

Jooleh Report 15 May 2013 20:32

Never straightforward is it! Looked at every resident transcript for New Waterford in Canada 1911 census in case WHW GF was mistranscribed but didn't find him.

Next I thought I'd see if he was near Ella M Major but she didn't show up in a search so I went to Sackville to look for her. Looks like she is wife of a EDIT Arthur Schultz ( not George) and has two children - her mother and father appear just above them.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=8052&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page

Will carry on looking to see if WHW GF is nearby.

Like several others haven't been able to find his brother either. If it helps his full name was George Digby Crofton Goddard Fenwick. Sometimes went by the name Digby and didn't always use the Fenwick.

Julie

Edit: For those unfamiliar with the Canada Census............click on the link above to see the transcript. Then click on the district number 28 highlighted in blue. That will take you to the list of page numbers for the district. Click on the PDF link next to page 5 and you'll see the image. It does appear to say Schultz for Arthur and Ella May.

Traciey

Traciey Report 15 May 2013 17:22

Wooo I like coming on here and its moved on a page. Thanks Choccy for the electoral rolls. Well done all you detectives and Renes that was an excellent write up with the hospital connection. I've not been feeling too great(doc thinks I have a sphenoid sinus infection) but I've still been tracking those MacLeod/McLeods that were neighbours to the Goddard-Fenwicks.

For those interested on the history of nursing etc I remember my college lecturer a few years ago telling me about a relative of hers being a nurse in the highlands and islands before the nhs came in. So I had a quick search and found this http://www.60yearsofnhsscotland.co.uk/history/birth-of-nhs-scotland/highlands-and-islands-medical-service/

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 15 May 2013 06:00

Just read the article too - wonder where his genealogy research is?? Might be able to shed some light or discount some theories lol!

Anything is possible :-S

Renes

Renes Report 14 May 2013 23:23

Chris

Thats is an interesting article ...... good spot

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 May 2013 21:34

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/8990633/Professor-Alan-Clarke.html

(info. on Alan D.B Clarke)

Chris :)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 14 May 2013 21:09

Thank you all.

Chris....where WERE these people at all????


Autumnleaves, thank you but we just can't seem to tie those Clarkes in at the moment. :-(


Hope Renes doesn't find her tax work too taxing...... :-D :-D

Autumnleaves

Autumnleaves Report 14 May 2013 19:06

Name: Prof. Alan Douglas Benson Clarke
Birth - Death: 1922-
Source Citation: Who's Who. An annual biographical dictionary. 142nd Year of Issue, 1990. New York: St. Martin's Press, 1990. (Who 142)

Any help?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 May 2013 16:34

(still no luck 1911, think below is Matthews (the Merchant) mentioned in posting earlier)

1911 Census of Canada
Name: William Mathews
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 33
Birth Date: Oct 1877
Birthplace: Newfoundland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Mathews
Immigration Year: 1908
Tribal: Scotch (Scotish)
Province: Nova Scotia
District: Cape Breton South
District Number: 40
Sub-District Number: 11
Place of Habitation: New Waterford
(Store Keeper, Dry Goods)

Chris :)

(big sigh, lol)

Renes

Renes Report 14 May 2013 13:31

Possibly because these were educated women .. With incomes

Ah we'll back to my tax work ..... Wish I did not offer to help .... Sometimes

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 14 May 2013 13:25

Renes.....the death of Willoughby's first wife is mentioned in Chris's post at the top of the page.


I guess Evelyn Mary is the daughter of Willoughby and Ella then.


Does anyone else find it strange that there are so many unmarried females in this family? :-S

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 May 2013 13:10

(just to add, not sure of Canadian Birth Records for around 1915, Death of Evelyn Mary GF gives 6th March 1915, comes back with family below)

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: E N Goddard fenwick (M on image)
Birth Date: abt 1915
Age: 13
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1928
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Halifax
[Boston]
Ship Name: Newfoundland
(Halifax given for Port of Embarkation, with Rev. W.H, and family, all off to 42, Foulser Road, Tooting, London)

Chris :)

Renes

Renes Report 14 May 2013 12:56

Okay. Thanks Cynthia -
I am doing Self Assessments today and tomorrow ... Boring

So musing myself in coffee breaks .....
- has any one found the death of first wife .. Or is it a divorce or any birth of children ?

So this is the date of second wedding September 1912 .. - The UK 1911 CensusSunday 2nd April 1911. - the Canadian 1911 started on June 1, 1911. All reports had been received by February 26, 1912.

Name: William H. W. Goddard
Birth Date: 1873
Birthplace: Jersey, G.B.
Age: 39
Spouse's Name: Ella M. Major
Spouse's Birth Date: 1887
Spouse's Birthplace: Halifax
Spouse's Age: 25
Event Date: 24 Sep 1912
Event Place: Sackville, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Father's Name: George S.
Mother's Name: Christophine
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas
Spouse's Mother's Name: Harriett
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M0009-0
System Origin: Canada-VR
GS Film number: 1298988
Reference ID: 2:3K3B985

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 14 May 2013 11:49

Hello Renes....yes, that's the correct chap but where was he in 1911???


He re-married in 1912 and, as has been mentioned before, there is an online photograph of the event. There is a small girl as one of the bridesmaids.



The write up:

The Halifax Herald, 27 September 1912, reported that "St. John's Anglican Church, Sackville, N.S., was...the scene of a pretty wedding.... Miss Major looked thoroly [sic] charming in her wedding gown of white satin, with pearl trimming, and wearing the conventional veil and orange blossoms. The bridesmaid's gown was of pale blue, the little flower girl wearing a dainty white silk frock. The ceremony was followed by a reception and wedding luncheon at the residence of the bride's parents...."



I have emailed the newspaper concerned to ask if it is possible to have the full report as I am interested as to who the small girl is. Also, one of the ladies will be Evelyn G. S. Goddard-Fenwick.



There is another Evelyn (they're all over the place aren't they?) in the Goddard-Fenwick family - Evelyn Mary Goddard-Fenwick, niece of Evelyn Gertrude, who was born in 1915.........can't find out where, and who died in the UK in 1986.



:-S :-S

Renes

Renes Report 14 May 2013 11:16

Cynthia

Fiddling around on FS saw this -- is this your line

Name: William Hy. Willoughby Goddard-Fenwick
Birth Date: 1873
Birthplace: Jersey, Channel Islands
Age: 32
Spouse's Name: Lillian Margaret Bown
Spouse's Birth Date: 1885
Spouse's Birthplace: North Sydney
Spouse's Age: 20
Event Date: 18 Oct 1905
Event Place: North Sydney, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
Father's Name: George Stephen
Mother's Name: Christophine Sarah C.
Spouse's Father's Name: Vincent
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M3920-9
System Origin: Canada-VR
GS Film number: 1298864
Reference ID:

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 May 2013 09:15

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Mrs K W Goddard Fenwick (Wm H W)
Gender: Male
Age: 37 (would say 32 on image)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Date of Arrival: 3 Aug 1906
Vessel: Tunisian
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

(Clergyman, born Channel Isles, with him, Lillian M, says Canadian, H. Wife. Place of Destination, Fortune Bay, NFD (Newfoundland)

I was going from above, but no luck 1911...

Chris :)

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name Entrep Goddard Fenrich (Evelyn)
Gender: Female
Date of Arrival: 28 Jul 1911
Vessel: Virginian
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

(no details, other than 'Tourist')

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 14 May 2013 08:39

Good morning.

Apparently Diane did speak very well indeed - softly and with a slight Scottish brogue I think Evelyn said. She also played the piano well, which could well link to Evelyn G-F.


Thank you Chris - I thought it was me being dense again!

So, where were the 2 G-F brothers in 1911?? Willoughby was obviously in Canada - he had married there in 1910, was widowed in 1911 and remarries in 1912.........but why not on a census?


I'm curious because I would love to know if either Willoughby or George Digby had a young child with them etc.


Right! Who's up for searching the bdm's of planet Mars then?? :-D


Cx :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 14 May 2013 07:38

Deaths Sep 1950 (>99%)
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MACLEOD Evelyn K 72 Surrey N.E. 5g 455

1901
MACLEOD, Alfred Head Married M 52 1849 ?
Edinburgh, Midlothian N/A
MACLEOD, Jeannie Wife Married F 50 1851
Edinburgh, Midlothian N/A
MACLEOD, Jeannie C Daughter Single F 26 1875 Student Of Medicine
Edinburgh, Midlothian N/A
MACLEOD, Evelyn K Daughter Single F 23 1878
City, Aberdeen N/A
MACLEOD, Alfred G Son Single M 21 1880 Insurance Instructor
City, Aberdeen N/A
MACLEOD, Louis P Son Single M 18 1883 Banker's Apprentice
City, Aberdeen N/A
MACLEOD, Arnold F Son Single M 17 1884 Banker's Apprentice
City, Aberdeen N/A
MACLEOD, Mary L Daughter F 15 1886 Scholar
City, Aberdeen N/A
SMITH, James Father-In-Law M 85 1816 Commercial Traveller Retired
Edinburgh, Midlothian N/A
MCLEOD, Christine Servant F 20 1881 ?
Cruden, Aberdeen N/A
Piece: 168
Folio: 59
Page: 25
Registration District: St Machar
Civil Parish: Aberdeen
Municipal Borough:
Address: 26, Salisbury Terrace {?}, Aberdeen
County: Aberdeenshire

(would need SP for 1911, she moved to Surrey 1941, intending to visit Aberdeen May/June yearly. Brother Alfred Death 1921. Advertisements also, 1905 running a "Childrens Saturday Class, Stammering Cured", 2, Fonthill Road, 1906,19, Fonthill Terrace, both Aberdeen)

Good find though!, especially as Evelyn always says "Mother spoke very nicely".

Chris :)


(No luck with GF brothers 1911 Canada...(below from google. Willoughby)


http://www.cbv.ns.ca/nwcomndx/history/churches.htm

The Goddard-Fenwicks were forced to leave this area because of the illness and subsequent death of Mrs. Fenwick which took place in the Laurentians in 1910.

Rev. Goddard-Fenwick returned to Nova Scotia and eventually became the Rector at Coxheath.
Only emergency services were held here until 1911, when Rev. Goddard-Fenwick received permission from the Bishop of the Diocese to begin a Mission Church in New Waterford. Regular services began on March 12, 1911 in a room of a building on the corner of King Street and Hinchey Avenue belonging to a merchant, W.J. Matthews.
One end of a company house, now No. 3452 Baker Street was obtained for a Rectory when Rev. Goddard-Fenwick promised the then Superintendent, Sandy MacEachern, to take two mine officials as boarders. As he could not get a housekeeper, Rev. Goddard-Fenwick was obliged to do the cooking, etc., in order to provide for his boarders.

Chris :)

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 14 May 2013 06:08

Evelyn J Clarke:

Births Mar 1917
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Clarke Evelyn J. Macleod**** Epsom 2a 3

1st married:
Marriages Jun 1939 (>99%)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarke Evelyn J Farrar Surrey Mid.E. 2a 894 Scan available - click to view
Farrar Frank S Clarke Surrey Mid.E. 2a 894

2nd married:
Marriages Jun 1945 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarke Evelyn J Shapiro Hampstead 1a 1534
Farrar Evelyn J Shapiro Hampstead 1a 1534
Shapiro Monte B Farrar Hampstead 1a 1534
Shapiro Monte B Clarke Hampstead 1a 1534


Not seeing an obvious MacLeod/Clarke marriage :-S Is this just more co-incidences??

Looks to be the sibling in the will:
Births Jun 1922 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Clarke Alan D B macLeod Epsom 2a 13

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 May 2013 20:51

Thank you.

I can't see a connection with Carshalton at the moment - can anyone else?

I do wonder how Miss Macleod cured stammering though. She must have been pretty good to have left that amount of money in 1950. It would be around £114,000 + nowadays...... :-0

jansmith

jansmith Report 13 May 2013 20:13

will for above
Name:
Evelyn Kate Macleod
Probate Date:23 Jan 1951
Death Date:17 Sep 1950
Death Place:Surrey, England
Registry:
London, England
OF 22 Dalmeny Road Carshalton spinster died 17th Sept 1950. Probate to Evelyn Jean Shapiro married woman and Alan Douglas Benson Clarke psychologist £6338 4s 10d