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wisechild

wisechild Report 20 Jul 2013 16:01

Another red herring for you.
1911 census
Donald Macleod Aged 27
Ist batt Seaport Highlanders (?Seaforth)
In India.
B Locks, Ross .

Kathy near the

Kathy near the Report 20 Jul 2013 15:00

This is probably a BIG RED HERRING however

Having trawled through 1911 census for a family with any surname but needed a mother called Catherine /Kate with children Donald and Isabel /Isabella I only found one

1911 lochs rd 87 ed4 page 4 Laxay
Catherine McKenzie head 45 w home spun tweed lochs
Christina " dau 13 scholar "
Donald " son 11 " "
Barbra " dau 9 " "
Isabella " dau 7 " "

1901 lochs rd87 ed 4 page 13 lochs

Malcolm McKenzie head mar 38 crofter lochs
Catherine " wife mar 34 "
Ann " dau 4 "
Christy " dau 3 "
Donald " son 2 "
Isabella " mother w 82 "

Marriage 13 March 1894 Lochs entry5

Malcolm McKenzie 31 bachelor Fisherman
f Donald McKenzie crofter
m Isabella " ms Smith
Cate McMillan spinster 27 dom ser
f Duncan McMillan crofter
m Christina " ms Nicolson ( dec )
witnesses Duncan McMillan and Malcolm Mcleod

IGI for McMillan family shows that Catherine had several sisters so I checked them out

Sister Louisa b21 Oct 1870 married1899

Wick entry 32
25 Aug 1899
John McLeod bachelor 30 fisherman
f Kenneth McLeod fisherman
m Mary " ms McMillan
Louisa McMillan spinster 27 dom serv
f Duncan McMillan crofter ( dec )
m Christina " ms Nicolson (dec )
witnesses Christy McLeod and John McMillan

states couple are second cousins .

Over to all of you
from census I can't find a Robert McLeod being a brother to John but I am probably missing the obvious .

I found that Catherine McKenzie died in 1946 so she def not the lady over 100.

Kathy


wisechild

wisechild Report 20 Jul 2013 07:39

I know that anything is possible & I´m sure this will have been suggested before, but could she have been born a Leslie & registered as such?
I´m thinking that maybe she was illegitimate or her mother was a widow who subsequently married Robert Macleod & he brought her up, so she thought of him as her father ,never having known her birth father.
May be worth looking for a Macleod/Leslie marriage later than 1906.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Jul 2013 20:48

I'm looking forward to ANY news on ANY thing...... :-( ;-)

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 19 Jul 2013 18:29

Fine, thanks, Cynthia - hope you are too.

Look forward to any news on the school!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Jul 2013 18:23

That was quick...........many thanks for the clarification Ann......hope you are well. :-)

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 19 Jul 2013 17:58

From my military summary on page 102

Surviving WW1 Officers files for men named Robert Macleod/McLeod at the National Archives have been searched and none seem to fit. (page 35,66)

and from pages 35 and 66 quoted above

p 35

I also looked at all the surviving R Macleod and Mcleod officers WW1 files. Again, all had to be ordered as the Catalogue doesn't give any detail. There were 12 files. Only 1 was in Seaforth Highlanders but he was born 1890 and no pre WW1 service was given. Only one man appeared to have pre WW1 service. He enlisted in 1903 and was with Royal Regiment of Artillery as Sergeant and was promoted in 1915 and became Lieutenant with RGA. Born 1886, married (no details), living in Edinburgh. Was serving in Hong Kong from 1907.

P 66

I found Robert Lockhart Ross McLeod on Saturday in Harts Army List at Kew. He was stationed in Madras in 1901 and in Dublin in 1904. Also saw the records for him that people on here have found but couldn't tie him in!

I also had a look at an officers file from WW1 for a Robert McLeod, Seaforth Highlanders. He seemed too young, though - born 24/10/ 1890, occupation Schoolmaster. There's a possible death for him in 1973. Very little in his file, but in 1915 his address was View Cottage, Edderton, Ross-shire. In 1926 he was a candidate for position of Clerical Officer in the Civil Service.

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Jul 2013 17:47

Thanks Cynthia I am sure he will have been "looked at" sometime.

Very glad I have got a fan for this weather and had a good swim at Romsey rapids :-) :-)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Jul 2013 17:12

Hi jan and thanks. I know Ann did a lot of work on the military aspect of all this - hope she is looking in and can add something about the above chap.



Re the query about Planisker School - there is someone in the archives who is looking through things for us. She tells me that she loves a good mystery.... :-S



Hope you are all coping during the present heatwave....... :-D

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Jul 2013 12:29

https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk

Has anyone tried this site , I don't have a sub. for it but wondered who this man could be?
Robert Macleod Temporary 2nd Lieutenant 1917 Seaforth Highlanders

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Jul 2013 13:53

I used to love jigsaws Traciey.......gone right off 'em now!! :-D


I remember that Fans did a lot of work on the Bolitho connection and I really must look it up and see if we have any links again..........just been a bit busy but will do my best soon..... :-)

Traciey

Traciey Report 10 Jul 2013 22:40

I was about to say the Willoughby name rang a bell.

All these coincidences, there is a tiny piece of a jigsaw just waiting to be slotted in and then we'll have the finished puzzle, but what is the tiny piece we are missing.

Robert MacLeod may well of been in the army but he might never have

been a major or officer, family folklore runs away with itself sometimes.

My mother told me as a little girl that my great uncle was a sergeant in

the SAS WW2, I searched everywhere for his details, bought several

books, to see if I could find out anything on him. He was in fact one of

the original founding members of the SAS but he was never a

sergeant. My husbands great grandfather was a sergeant major in

WW1 of the royal horse artillery only I never found him as a sergeant

major or any other acting officer he was a normal soldier. My great

great grandfather Fisher who is in my avatar was supposedly this

wonderful man who served in the Royal Scot Fusiliers fighting in Africa,

my great aunt who is 89 speaks very fondly of her grandfather and his

army days, so you can imagine her disgust when I told her he didn't

actually see much service as he infact spent several months at a time

in hospitals with many bouts of syphilis.

Autumnleaves

Autumnleaves Report 10 Jul 2013 12:04

Cynthia don;t worry about looking up about the Bolitho connection I found it myself. Roderick Willoughby Macleod was visiting them - his sister was the Bolitho mans wife. Interesting thing about Rodericks second name 'Willoughby" could this be where Evelyn Goddard Fenwicks family link in as one of her brothers had the Willoughby name.
Read somewhere once where there was a naming pattern whereby children took a name from paternal and maternal side- forget which way it went.
The Invergordon site I listed above Interested me because of the mention of a Margaret who had been ''trouble'' .Did wonder if it would have been ok to contact them,but did not like to in case anyone else helping here had already done so.Or whether you felt it was not the thing to do.

wisechild

wisechild Report 10 Jul 2013 07:06

had a very quick glance at the India site & notice a mention of a Major J H Leslie.
Haven´t had time to explore further, but I wonder......

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 9 Jul 2013 22:10

As Robert Macleod wasn't an officer in Seaforth Highlanders, how do we even know the name is right?!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Jul 2013 21:49

Hello everyone........

Autumnleaves - I had a look at that link and some of it is familiar. I remember Fans tracking down some Macleods linked to Bolitho in the Cornwall area, but nothing came of it. I will try and find where it was on here when I have a minute. Thanks.

Jansmith and Wisechild - some of those names are, again, familiar and I'm pretty sure were looked at at some stage........trouble is, it's hard to remember 4 years of work isn't it? :-)

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 Jul 2013 20:43

cwgc?? son above

Name:
Torquil Harry Lionel McLeod
Age:
15
Birth Date:
abt 1900
Death Date:
13 May 1915
Cemetery:
Chatham Naval Memorial 1915
Burial Country:
England
Mother:
Mrs MacLeod
Region or Memorial:
Memorial Register

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 Jul 2013 20:17

This could be their son 1901 census

Name:Roderick W Macleod
Age:42
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1859
Relationship:Head
Spouse's name : Alice D Macleod
Gender:Male
Where born: naili, Nairnshire
Registration number:81
Registration District:Rosskeen
Civil Parish:Rosskeen
County:Ross and Cromarty
Address: Invergordon Castle
Occupation:
Labe Captain Q D C Highis

Name:
Alice D Macleod
Age:
29
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1872
Relationship:
Wife
Spouse's name :
Roderick W Macleod
Where born:
Pitlochry, Perthshire

Name:
Robert R D Macleod
Age:
3
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1898
Relationship:
Son
Father's Name:
Roderick W Macleod
Mother's Name:
Alice D Macleod

Name:
Forquil H L Macleod
Age:
1
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1900
Relationship:
Son
Father's Name:
Roderick W Macleod
Mother's Name:
Alice D Macleod
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Rosskeen, rossshire
plus a lot of staff

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 Jul 2013 20:06

Just looked at above site only Robert info from search was-
Newspapers and periodicals : Allens Indian Mail
Groom Surname Macleod
Groom First names Robert B.C.E.
Bride Surname Willoughby
Bride First names Ellen A.
Year 1857
this marriage took place in Paddington LONDON
(MARRIAGE cert image online} ???could be grandfather!!!
Name:
Robert Bruce Eneas Macleod
Spouse Name:
Ellen Augusta Willoughby
Marriage
Event Date:
5 Mar 1857
Parish:
Paddington St John
Borough:
Westminster
Father Name:
Roderick Macleod
Spouse Father Name:
John Pollard Willoughby
Register Type:
Parish Register
1881 census

Name:
Robert Bruce Aeneas Macleod
Age:
62
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1819
Relationship:
Head
Spouse's name :
Helen Augusta Macleod
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Edinburgh
Registration number:
81
Registration District:
Rosskeen
Civil Parish:
Rosskeen
County:
Ross and Cromarty
Address:
Invergordon Castle
Occupation:
Retired Commander R. Navy Landed Proprietor

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Jul 2013 15:05

Has anybody heard of/looked at a site called Families in British India?
just came across it on another well known help site, but haven´t had chance to look at it.
Bearing in mind what Annie Laurie says, we may not be looking for Robert Macleod anyway. :-( :-( :-( :-S :-S :-S