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Births Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Hogan John St. Saviour 1d 48


Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
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Hogan John W. Derby 8b 379
Hogan John Prescot 8b 732

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Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Hogan John Lambeth 1d 346



Births Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Hogan John Liverpool 8b 110

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Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Hogan John Ecclessal B. 9c 377




Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
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Hogan John Merthyr T. 11a 542
Hogan John Whitehaven 10b 632

from sue

On his marriage certificate april 1918 its says 29 yrs old and on his death certificate Jan 1958 it says 68 yrs old so i am going on 1889/90 more on the 1889.

am going to be away from the computer for about 30 mins so please don't think i'm ignoring you


Sue

possible births for John in yorkshire.i don't know how you will sought this out not knowing where he was born,Maybe there is a church record somewhere in middlesbro that would have the birth place,if they were married in church,

Births Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Hogan John Ecclessal B. 9c 377

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Births Dec 1891 (>99%)
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Hogan John William Holbeck 9b 323

Hi again, marriage certificate says bachelor and nothing on his death certificate i'm afraid. Thanks for trying Sue.

Hi Sablon thanks for your reply and advice, i'm finding my way around slowly!!! I have John Hogans marriage certificate and it only gives his age and father's name no place of birth unfortunatly. His place of birth would open so many doors but there is no way of finding out i'm afraid. Doing this has made me realise how important it is to keep any old papers, documents photos etc and to talk to other family members about your life.
Regards Sue.

susan ,why not get the marriage cert/this will give johns age and place of birth and fathers name
sorry ,you have that one. don't you?

Hi Sablon. you probably don't remember me but you were very helpful in searching for 2 of my mum's brothers (May 25th) Well just to let you know that i have recieved the birth certificate from the info you found and it is indeed the right Terence Hogan. So a big thank you. I still can find no trace of "Jackie" Hogan but did look for a child from her previous marriage as you suggested and found a Federick Sowden as to whether this is Jackie i'm afraid i'll never know. i have great respect for you and others who can do this so easily. I think i've come to a dead end now as i can't find a birth record for my grandfather.

So thank you for all your help it was very much appeciated . Sue

I been trawling the birth records this morning, been up for hours!!!

I went back to 1910 when gertrude would have been 16 so looked for Shea nothing as far as i could see.

Then tried Sowden after she married in 1914 and found i possible child
Fredrick b. 1915 ( mother's name Shea). I had though that maybe 1911 census may show where she was living around that time, what do you think?

Births Mar 1909 (>99%)
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Shea Jack Joseph Lambeth 1d 325

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Births Dec 1909 (>99%)
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Shea Jack Stoke T. 6b 260


just a possability 2 jacks born to mother Shea.I wonder if she had jack when she was single ,Here's her first marriage

Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
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Shea Gertrude M A Sowden Middlesbro 9d 1300
Sowden James S Shea Middlesbro 9d 1300


The district Middlesbro is an alternative name for Middlesbrough and it is in the county of North Riding of Yorkshire;

there is this marriage in 1912 which would go with the birth of Jack Hogan 1914 so not your jack as father is william

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)
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Hogan William E Reeves St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 736
Reeves Mary I Hogan St. Geo.H.Sq. 1a 736



Births Jun 1914
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HOGAN Jack _Reeves Romford 4a 1196


The district Romford is in the county of Essex

sorry
bought this forward,daniel was from Shea mother

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
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HOGAN Daniel V Shea Easington 10a 720


The district Easington is in the county of Co. Durham

Thank you will do that and get back to you, usually takes about a week from ordering. Thanks for all your help so far its been much appreciated ,You're a star. Its so hard when there is so little info. Sue

catch you later

susan
qoate

Danny was a Hogan although he must have been born before John & Gertrude married in 1918 ? bit
icomplicated this !! (John) was his father John Hogan

Get Dannys birth cert,incase the mother is johns first wife
if danny had been born out of wedlock he would have Gertrudes name,

Births Jun 1914
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HOGAN Jack _Reeves Romford 4a 1196


The district Romford is in the county of Essex;

Yes she was born Gertrude Shea 1894 ,then married Sowden was widowed ,and married Hogan in 1918.

is it possable that Jack could be Hogan,bu from Johns first marriage,if he was married before

i thought her maiden name was shea ??

her first marriage


Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
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Shea Gertrude M A Sowden Middlesbro 9d 1300
Sowden James S Shea Middlesbro 9d 1300

Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
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Sowden Frederick Shea Guisbro 9d 897