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Oh no! Red herring, red herring!


Name: Alcie E Redgrave
Spouse Surname: Bull
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1921
Registration district: Warwick
Registration county (inferred): Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1724


That's where the Warwick births come from, aargh.


YOUR (?) Bull-Redgrave births would -- no, *could* -- be these, only.

Name: Dorothy E Bull
Mother's Maiden Surname: Redgrave
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1917
Registration district: Northampton
Registration county: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 107

Name: Cyril C J Bull
Mother's Maiden Surname: Redgrave
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1923
Registration district: Hardingstone
Registration county: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 37

Name: Cyril Charlie J Bull
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1923
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1988
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 7
Page: 2298

Got him right, anyway -- and check the middle name.


Marriages Dec 1914
Bull Charlie Redgrave Chorlton 8c 1324
REDGRAVE Kathleen M Bull Chorlton 8c 1324

That's why i am waiting for the birth certificate as i cannot trace the mother or father because there are lots of male and female Redgraves around the same age living in Potterspury at that time! They may even have their fathers surname! ;-)

Maybe not if they were unrelated!!! Strange coincidence tho!!

deleted info re child of a different Bull-Healey couple; see later post

I think I'll let you do the others ... which might best wait until you're sure of the family connection. ;)


Who were the parents of those Redgrave girls???

Ha, maybe......... but even more interesting is the birth and subsequent death in 1897/1898.... as my grandads name was also Norman..............

We can track the deceased ones, though. ;)


Name: Cyril C J Bull
Mother's Maiden Surname: Redgrave
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1923
Registration district: Hardingstone
Registration county: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 37

Name: Cyril Charlie J Bull
Birth Date: 6 Jun 1923
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1988
Age at death (estimated): 64
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume: 7
Page: 2298


And you could look for him marrying, and then for his kids -- ditto for marriages and kids for all the Bull-Redgrave sons and daughters. Their kids might well be living now and findable via www.192.com - it's just that their names and details shouldn't be posted here.

Well, likely not ...


1901

Name: Charles Redgrave
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Jas
Mother's Name: Margaret
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton

Jas Redgrave 42 - born Camberwell
Margaret Redgrave 32 - born Camberwell
Maggie Redgrave 11
Jessie Redgrave 9
James Redgrave 4
Charles Redgrave 2
Robert Vesey 53
Eustace Vesey 11


Unrelated looking Redgraves.

Interestingly, following on the three girls' births, there are the only other 3 Redgrave events in Chorlton:


Births Jun 1897
Redgrave Norman Linwood Chorlton 8c 880
Deaths Mar 1898
Redgrave Norman Linwood 0 Chorlton 8c 533

Births Sep 1898
Redgrave Charles Henry Chorlton 8c 888


Brothers?

OK no specifics. It's all fuzzy searches on ancestry but that helped me find Kathleen and Victoria!! If she is my Eva, which i think looks likely as two of the sisters ended up in Charlton, where my grandad was born! Fingers crossed then ;-)

Hold on - the marriage to Joass isn't her. A second marriage would be under the first married name.

Search the births index at Ancestry for Bull-Redgrave births.

You'll find nine of them (the first two with the same name, so presumably the first Dorothy died). Up to 1933, most in Warwick, two in Northamptonshire.

Ah, I'm using FreeBMD and they don't have the Victoria marriage transcribed yet.

Ancestry, bless it, has her marrying as Evelyn V to "Hesley", unless you check the image I guess; 1917.

Right, so that would be why I missed the marriage at FreeBMD, which doesn't do fuzzy searches - it was as Evelyn.

No Healey-Redgrave births that I find.

Any kids for Kathleen's marriages? If they're post-1920, they could be living, so no specifics should go on the boards here. ;)

It would be nice to have some names to search trees for here.

aaaahhh, Thats strange! So she was living on her own in Potterspury in 1911 and then got married to Bull in 1914 in Charlton and then to Joass in 1919.

mmmmm

But I can't resist ...


1911

REDGRAVE KATHLEEN MAY 1894 17 Potterspury Northamptonshire

And searching for surnames "starting with" every letter of the alphabet, living with Kathleen May Redgrave in Potterspury, we find that she is living with precisely nobody.

Yes! I found Kathleen May Redgrave married twice, second time to Roass Jun 1919 in Greater London.

Victoria Evelyn married Healey 1917 Winslow, Bucks.

Crazy how they were all boarders and then servants...

The odds that those three girls are sisters are just really high.

I'm going to wait for that birth cert with bated breath. ;)

Here they are in 1901!

Name: Cissie Redgrave
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Boarder
Where born: Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire, England

Name: Queenie Redgrave
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Boarder
Where born: Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Paulerspury
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Registration district: Potterspury

William Henson 35 - boot and shoe maker
Susan Henson 42
Cissie Redgrave 7
Queenie Redgrave 5


Queenie is, of course, a nickname for Victoria.

Crossing in the post -- yes, and this one:

Births Dec 1895
Redgrave Victoria Evelyn Potterspury 3b 19

(no death or marriage showing)


Interesting. One might indeed suspect the same parents -- but who??

Not Amy Lamb Redgrave, since she was already married to Brazell.

Chorlton - this one?

Births Mar 1894
Redgrave Kathleen May Potterspury 3b 25

Marriages Dec 1914
REDGRAVE Kathleen M Bull Chorlton 8c 1324

I have a 14 day free trial at ancestry.com. I just typed in search Redgrave born Potterspury, Northamptonshire. The younger girls names were Kathleen May and Victoria Evelyn Redgrave.

You searched where?

Sheila is quite a modern name - not someone born c1890 I'd think.

The only other Redgrave in the 1911 shown as born in Potterspury is:

INSTITUTION REDGRAVE EDWIN 1876 35 Potterspury Northamptonshire


Offhand, I'm not seeing him in 1891 or 1901. In 1881 there's an Edwin Redgrave in Shoreditch, born 1872, is all.

- edit - I wonder whether the age is off and should be 55, which would make him Amy's brother in the 1891 census, aged 35 with no occupation.


Tell me where you're looking at these other Redgraves.