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I searched all the Redgraves born in Potterspury and it seems it was quite a large family! There is however a Sheila E A Redgrave so maybe it's her name switched around!! I don't know when she was born as i haven't got full access! There are though two younger girls which could be Eva's sisters! Both were child boarders and ended up as servants?!! oooooo and one of those ended up in Charlton.......

Problem is, we have no way of knowing whether the EAS Redgrave birth cert will be the right one!

Will be interesting to know what the "S" is, though. My bet is that it's the father's surname, and the father isn't named.

And that would leave the possibility that that Eva went by the father's surname at some point.

She could have been a servant like one of my gr-gfather's sister's kids was in 1901 (the sister married very well, although her husband did lose his inheritance on the ponies): a "lady help". Rather more genteel than scullery maid. ;)

Viv, yes a got the 2 week free trial with ancestory.

Janey, yes, i agree the surnames are very similar, would she have become a servant though if she was sent to boarding school or am i being naive?? I am waiting for the certificate to come through my door, should be any day now. Just hoping it's the right one..... ;-)

Aha.

Your 1901 Eva Redgrave in Hazelgrove Cum Bramhall (Stockport reg dist):

Name: Eva Redgrave
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Boarder
Where born: London

Look who the rest of the household is:

Henry Boydell 35 - born Lancashire, Tyldesley
Edith L Boydell 33 - born Kent, Ironbridge ? - schoolmistress


Boydell? An awful lot like Brazell/Brayell (although it does look clearly like Boydell on the image). ... Nah, he's Boydell -- married Edith Lilian Goord in Tunbridge 1894.

Eva could have been at school there. Arthur was a farmer in 1901, and he and Amy had a domestic servant, so they may have been wellish off. Eva being the wife's child before marriage maybe, it was off to boarding school for her.

If my current wildish theory were correct. ;)


Amy in 1911, not living with any other Brazell (or Redgrave):

BRAZELL AMY LAMB 1859 52 Thame Oxfordshire


Deaths Mar 1935
Brazell Amy L 74 Wallingford 2c 427

Nice to have seen you Sylvia,Janey and Michelle.
Gotta go,.
I,ll look in tomorrow.

Make a list of look ups you want if no one else has done them.
I had no luck woth usa or canadian records.

Have you had the 2 weeks free trail with ancestry Michelle??

viv

OK thankyou, that's my header changed! Sorry if i am trying your patience.... Viv, i cannot find a birth for the Eva Redgrave you just mentioned???

For the Eva Ada Redgrave born in Northamptonshire, I think this is probably her mother:

Marriages Jun 1893
Brayell Arthur Potterspury 3b 70
Redgrave Amy Lamb Potterspury 3b 70

That's the only Redgrave marriage anywhere/anytime in the right vicinity.


1891:

Name: Amy L Redgrave
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Where born: Potterspury, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Wolverton
Town: Stony Stratford
> County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Registration district: Potterspury

Joseph Redgrave 69
Elizabeth Redgrave 65
Elizabeth R Redgrave 36
Edwin J Redgrave 35
Joseph H Redgrave 33
Amy L Redgrave 31
Josephine E Linwood 18
Mildred Coons 22


Name: Arthur Brazell
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Where born: Chinnor, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Stony Stratford West
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Registration district: Potterspury

Arthur Brazell 29
Ambrose Brazell 18


You do need to get that Eva Ada Redgrave birth certificate. An exact date and place of birth can come in handy. Also mother's / parents' names, of course.


Hmm. Problem is that this seems to be that Amy and Arthur in 1901:


Name: Arthur Brazell
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amghams (it says Amy Lamb)
Where born: Chinnor, Oxfordshire, England
Occupation: Farmer

Civil parish: Moreton Pinkney
County/Island: Northamptonshire

She embarked in London and is british

Name: Miss Eva Redgrave
Port of Departure: London & Cape Town
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Voyage Arrival Date: 17 Sep 1910
Vessel Name: Moravian

Edit..... age 28

Michelle


please do NOT start a new thread!!!!


Click on Edit under your original header (starter) message. That shoudl also bring up the header line ..... and you just type in the new or amended header




Viv ...... that is very worrying!!

Maybe that cedar plank I threw of the train was aimed a little too well? :)))



sylvia

Sorry to be a pain but how do i change it or should i post a new thread?? I don't think

REDGRAVE Eva (dob)1886 1910 London Australia Sydney

is my Eva. I have found her death records and she married a Corner and died aged 77 still married to him! hmmmm ;-)

The Sidney passengers were on different ships and way out for years.

Janey is only being nice to get use of my ancestry subs!

Mind you I am worried that shes going soft in her old age.
Sending me HUGS???

that's a very good idea Janey!

This is probably the same one as I found at FMP - I can't access at Ancestry:


New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922
Immigration & Emigration
Name: Miss Eva Redgrave
Port of Arrival: Sydney, New South Wales
Name: Miss Eva Redgrave
Departure: location
Arrival: date - Sydney, New South Wales

You have coincidences abounding.

I'd change your subject line. The southern hemisphere brigade will be coming on line sometime, and you could catch their eye about that Australian passenger list.

Make it, I would suggest:

Prince/Redgrave - England, US, Australia?

and then you'll get full attention. ;)

Well yes, stranger things have happened!! At least they r being nice 2 each other Sylvia!! Hehe

They prob would have been collecting their childrens pensions by then I would have thought.
But stranger things do happen

cor, Michelle


you've got these two being nice to each other!!!


~~~~~~~~~ to Janey and Viv

Viv, my grandad was born in 1918 so do you think this couple is unlikely to be them as this would mean they would have gotten divorced very late in life......

Aaaah, Janey, spookily enough, i have just found E A Prince and J E Prince on unassisted passenger lists 1826-1922 to SYDNEY.......... I am getting ever so confused!!! ;-(