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Tthese are my great grandparents too, my grandfather was John he was in the boer war so was away for the 1901 census. I have more information. Pat

I believe the father of Frank born Malton c1856 is as follows:-

Marriages Dec 1863 Allen Bridget to Conmay Frank York 9d 122
1871 - address Moor Monkton Great Ouseborn nr York - General Dealer
1881 - address Moor Monkton Great Ouseborn nr York - Licencesd Hawker
1886 - Occupation, Hawker (Taken from son Frank's marriage cert)
1891 - address Moor Monkton Great Ouseborn nr York (Parliamentary District) Thirsk & Malton - Licencesd Hawker

As you can see the marriage is after the birth of Frank, please can anyone find a previous marriage for Frank. If I have the correct family there is also a daughter Mary born York c1861.

Many thanks
Debra

I would start with these 2 births - the other children could be from previous marriage given the age difference.

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Choice of 2 or - Possible that one James died
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BIRtTHS 1895

Conmy James Pocklington 9d 79

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Births Dec 1897

Conmy James Pocklington 9d 74

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Births Mar 1900

Conmy Robert Owen Pocklington 9d 75

Apologises, I am having to pop out for an hour will log back on on my return.

Thanks
Debra

The only birth certificate seen shows maiden name as Berry but no longer sure that this was not a spelling mistake.

In the census the second child is Thomas William Conmy born c1883 in Selby. Have found a Thomas William Berry born Selby in1883. I was hoping that when I ordered the marriage cert for Frank & Margaret it would show Margaret as having previously married and that Thomas was her child from that marriage but subsequently took Frank's surname.

Regards
Debra

From your opening post

"Have been able to find birth records for all children except Francis"

Surely the mother's maiden name would be on all those certificates.

In the absence of anything else have ordered the marriage cert of Frank Conmy & Margaret Barry (1886).

The cert shows Frank's age as 30 and Margaret as 26 which fits with the possible years of birth. Frank is a widower, his father is Frank (Hawker). Margaret is a spinster, her father is James Barry (Coast Guardsman).

Can anyone help find a previous marriage for Frank or a birth record for Margaret (no longer sure if it is Barry or Berry).

Many thanks
Debra

Thomas is 27 on 1911 image!

Dea x

In the 1911 census - see details above , you will see a Thomas 22 not at home , please can anyone check the original to see if it is 22 could it be 28ish.

Thanks
Debra

Further information has suddenly come to my attention.

Margaret's maiden name is BERRY - (had thought it could be BARRY), Maiden taken from the birth cert of her son John. Now also know that Margaret had a middle name of Maud.

Could anyone with access to Irish or Scottish systems check to see if there is a birth for Margaret around 1860 ish. Apologises can't be clearer about the birth place as the census I have seen quote either Ireland, Scotland or At Sea.

Some information that came to my attention yesterday suggests she could have been the daughter of a Scottish Surgeon but as she married an Irish Labourer the family disowned her but this is all hearsay.

Thanks
Debra

Debra

If you would like a copy of the 1891 census then just send me a message with your email addy and I will forward.

Maureen

Searched 1911 census for surname Conmy, now I am totally confused. I am guessing that the families in York and Pocklington and possibly Howden are related.

E.g. If you search all persons with the surname Conmy living with Lilian Wilson Conmy you get 3 Marys - Mary 1898, Mary 1899 & Mary Catherine 1889.

Not finding the name Conmy in GR must have been transcribed incorrectly.

Debra,

A few deaths to consider in Pocklington where the younger children on the 1911 were born

Annie 1898 aged 1
Michael 1899 aged 6
Kathleen 1903 aged 0

All births/deaths between census years ? But there is another Conmy in Pocklington as well.

Nite Ann

Thanks everybody for your hard work. Unfortunately must signoff now as I have got an early start tomorrow, will catch up with you again sometime tomorrow.

Your interest is much appreciated.
Debra

Only got sub to Ancestry so found it on there

Glitter Baby

Did you find this in GR as I can't bring anything up for these names. Certainly looks like the same family. Have found Birth for Martin 1890 and his death 1892, accounts for one of the dead children.

1891 poss

Name: Frank Conney - Conmy on image
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Malton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: All Saints Peasholm
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthberts
Town: York
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: York
Sub-registration district: Walmgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Conney 35 - bricklayers lab
Margaret Conney 30 Greenock, Scotland
Frank Conney 9
Thomas Wm Conney 8
John Conney 6
Patrick James Conney 4
Arthur Conney 3
Martin Conney 1

Class: RG12; Piece: 3892; Folio 60; Page 20; GSU roll: 6099002.





1861 this family is near enough the right area
Name: John Conmy
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Auther
Mother's Name: Cathrine
Gender: Male
Where born: Market Weighton, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Market Weighton
Town: Market Weighton
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Pocklington
Sub-registration district: Market Weighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Auther Conmy 39
Cathrine Conmy 30
John Conmy 4
Mary Conmy 8
Thomas Conmy 2
Cathrine Croghan 68

Thanks Ann

Will try and follow up, unfortunately my nana is very vague about her ancestors.

Hi Debra,

A further bit of info re your family

On the 1911, it states that Margaret and Frank have been married for
30 years.

There were 15 children born to this couple, nine living and six having died all children born England, Margaret says her birth was "At Sea"

Frank 55
Margaret 51
Frances 29
Patrick 24
Mary 19
James 14
Robert 9
Thomas 4 (Grandchild)

There are three other children listed then crossed out as "not at home"

Thomas 22
John 25 (widower for under 1 year)
Arthur 22

Ann

Apologises Jan it is Margaret. Have amended my thread.