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Hi Derek,
Does this mean that you will be able to find the marriage of Wiiliam Shooter/Mary Carlin now we know it was at St James. Riddings 1875. Please?
Joan
:-S

Hi Derek.

Hope all is well and you are now feeling much better.

Do your records cover the areas of Tutbury, Smisby and Oakthorpe or are they Staffordshire/Leicestershire.

I have got a really good one here, just the sort you like.......lol.... I could do with some help with confirming baptisms, fathers if possible and marriages. Lots of illegitimate children, transportation etc but seem to keep hopping across the county boundaries.

No pressure Derek when you are ready.

Susan :-)

Hi Chrissie..don't mind at all..thanks for you help, as always.

Derek.

Hi Joy........Sandiacre PR'S give only one Hickinbottom of that time..and since its so close to the date you mention. I suspect that if John had been baptised at Sandiacre he would have been in the records......but if not, then the following is at least a possible brother:

WILLIAM HICKINBOTTOM baptise Sandiacre 27.071788 son of Thomas and Elizabeth...........

........there is no Hickinbottom marriage at Sandiacre in the 20 years or so before this baptism..........

I'll keep looking for a bit.

Derek.

Hiya Derek.

Having solved a mystery on hubby's tree, I'm now looking for the parents of:

John Hickinbottom born c1787 in Sandiacre, Derbyshire.

He ?marries/dies in Breedon on the Hill, Leicestershire. Would love to find siblings as well if possible.

Ta in anticipation m'duck.
Joy

HI Derek,

I hope you don't mind me adding to your thread with info for Joan.

According to the parish records on FMP, the marriage between William Shooter and Mary Carlin took place at St James at Riddings.

Reagrds

Chrissie

Hi Derek
I'm wondering if you have any news for me regarding the burial of Mary Holmes who died aged 72 in Stokes Yard, Chesterfield, you said you would have to go to the Records Office to look for it.

Also I asked if you could look for the death of James Hutchinson b 1756, his wife Catherine died in 1841 aged 82 and she was a widow then, she died in West Barr but I believe she lived in Brampton.

Any news would be appreciated.
Many thanks

Kath

Hi. Derek,
Arthur here again.
Since I got in touch with you I have discovered that Edwards father, Augustine/Austin Cupit was married to Elizabeth Marriott in 1819.
She died and he married Elizabeth Chapman.
I don't know if this is correct because it was off someones tree.
I did not mention at the time but I have the marriage certificate of Edward Cupit and Mary Mellors, I did not want to burden you with too much to start with.
The next bit of info I have is that Austin's parents were Austin Cupit and mary Siddall but again I am not sure if this is true.
Also, hope I am not boring you. I have made contact this last few days with a Man in Austalia who's grandmother was Sofia Cupit who was related to a George Cupit
from Higham.
Thats enough for now for you to digest.
Thanks for your interest and if I have any info that can help you or others then I'm
here.
Regards
Arthur

Hi Derek,
Thanks for all this. Think our paths have crossed before. Maybe with the "Shooter Group"
They are my Grt Grandparents!
Joan

Hello Joan.......I don't think this marriage took place in church.....It was Registered in the belper Reg. District (which includes Alfreton) JAG 1875..........but does not appear in the Alfreton Parish records of Weddings......which means that the only place you're going to get the precises information you require is by purchasing a copy of the Birth Certificate.....

However..I know this family very well, and i know the area in which they lived and died even better........I was actually in Alfreton this afternoon......I can tell you a few bits and bobs as background information.........

MARY CARLIN was baptised at Alfreton 28.12.1857..and died there is 1914

WILLIAM SHOOTER was born 1854 and died at Alfreton Dec 1915

William and Mary live in Birchwood Lane in 1881 by which time they had two children Annie Ethel and William.......the interesting thing is that the whole family appears to have lived either on or close to Birchwood lane for many years.

William Shooter's father William died on Birchwood Lane in 1887..and you probably know of the will in which he left his property to his wife Hannah..a Gold watch to his son William and a silver watch to his son George.........and he mentions his granddaughter ADA SHOOTER ABSALOM......which sparked my interest as being possibly a child of William and Mary..

BUT my research uncovers the fact that Ada is the daughter of William's sister ELIZABETH..and her husband ROBERT ABSALOM.....

WILLIAM SHOOTER and MARY CARLIN.....and his sister ELIZABETH SHOOTER and ROBERT ABSALOM....were actually married on the same day in 1875......I suggest at Alfreton register office.

I have loads more on thsi family if you need more help.

Derek.

Hi. I'm looking for the marriage of William Shooter to Mary Carlin. JulyQ 1875, Alfreton Derbyshire. Any details, Address, Wit etc please.
Many Thanks.
Joan

hello Arthur..welcome to my Office!!...........I'm just starting on this..but have pretty well exhausted all my sources looking for AUSTIN CUPIT born about 1790 ish.....

I have reason to believe that Edward Cupit was born 07.04.1814 at Shirland....which took some finding..and that his father was AUGUSTINE CUPIT of Shirland..and since i have met the diminution of Augustine to Austin before..I shall now follow this up. have the Shirland records!!

will get back to you asap.....but I'm pretty sure its Augustine you should be looking for.
EDIT 17.49 Thursday..........I have this afternoon been out and about in exactly the places mentioned in the reords i have been looking at... (on another matter it should be said)..and it is amazing how very close to each other all of these places are............Alfreton..Shirland..Stretton..Morton and North wingfield are within walkable distance from each other....so I'm more than happy that I'm on the right track......

I need you to confirm that your Cupit family did in fact move to the sutton in Ashfield, Huthwaite area in later years????..even these are only just the other side of the M1 Motorway to Alfreton and Pinxton.....

Derek.

Hi Derek,
I have been on Genes Reunited for a few years and have only just found you.
My problem is, I have got as far back as my g.g.g.grandfather Edward Cupit who was married to Mary Mellors.
His father was Austin Cupit according to the marriage certificate but I can find no trace of him,
They were married 13th Oct. 1840 in Alfreton.
Hope you can solve this mystery.
I gather you have been ill. get well soon.
Regards
Arthur Martin.

Hi Derek
I thought i let you know had the Birth certificate come through for George Turner of Cromford born 1841 it says mother Sarah Turner George was just listed as a boy no name for him registered and the informant was a Riche Turner Occupier could be her father.
Sharon

right back on track
checked wifes grandfathers birth cert and mother def sarah benbow
check her marriage record to frederick mellor and father is def. walter benbow coach maker and in 1881 census have her listed living at home with her father in birmingham and listed as born in derby
confusion was caused by picking up on the wrong frederick and sarah mellor in 1911 census where that sarah was listed as born church gresley

it was sarah benbow that was listed as born in church gressley
but i am beginning to think i have confused my frederick mellors to satisfy the family rumour so thanks for your help and i will do some more digging to make sure i am on the right track before bothering you again

thanks very much again for your time and help

Hello again terry........I don't think there is any Church Gresley link at all.

Sarah Benbow married Frederick Mellor of Aston Birmingham last Qtr 1900 at Aston..

Frederick has a clear history in Birmingham born Birmingham the son of William and Sarah Jane Mellor..............Sarah Jane from Rugby Warwickshire 1844
There WAS a Frederick Mellor born Church Gresley 1866..son of John and Mary..but he is nothing whatsoever to do with you family.


who was the mysterious missing sister????

Derek.

blimmy that was quick

father was a walter benbow born c1852 kiderminster
mother was a mary a crompton born c1852 durham
married oct to dec 1873 in halifax
and living together in birmingham in 1891 census
would love to find a mellor link as when she married a mellor in birmingham there were no familiy witnesses and were listed at the same address
plus a daughter who disappeared from the family home and who my wifes grandfather thought was an aunt untill late in life he discovered she was a sister

she will be my next quarry
poss born in glossop c 1901
actual 1898 so too soon i think

HelloTerry...you say you have her parents names.........they would help would they be Walter and Mary from Kidderminster?.....

If so..there are a number of anomalies..the only marriage for Walter Benbow that fits..is to MARY A CROMPTON at Halifax Yorkshire OND1873.........two different Censuses Mary A as having been born in either County Durham..or in Birmingham.
Walter Benbow was born Kidderminster 1852..and was a Coach painter.later Coach Maker..

Sarah Benbow was not born in Church Gresley..her Civil registration is at Derby............which is a registration District which does not include Church Gresley..........she may well have lived there later in her life, but was not born there.

My research is ongoing..and of course what i have given you above depends entirely on you confirming Sarah' parents...........ASAP.........

Derek.

Derek.