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30 Jul 2010 15:53 |
Leonard ibbotson son vibert born 1918 liverpool im trying to go backward from leonard but get stuck the ibbotsons are originaly a yorkshire family with viking /saxon any help gratefully recieved ancestry im told
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cagsie
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30 Jul 2010 16:01 |
have you got leonard in any census?
when and where was he born?
names of parents or siblings?
any of the above would be useful
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Astra
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30 Jul 2010 16:03 |
1911 census - household transcription
Person: IBBOTSON, Leonard Address: 30 Cunard Road Litherland Lancashire
IBBOTSON, Henry Head Widower M 63 1848 Night Watchman Yorks Royston VIEW IBBOTSON, William Son Single M 28 1883 Engine Driver Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Lillian Daughter Single F 26 1885 Housekeeper For Father Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Gordon Son Single M 24 1887 Painter Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Vibert Son Single M 23 1888 Cook Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Leonard Son Single M 21 1890 Clerk Shipping Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Dorothy Granddaughter F 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 22337 Reference: RG14PN22337 RG78PN1319 RD455 SD2 ED7 SN122 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: Litherland Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Litherland
In 1915 Leonard married Catherine Hughes
Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%) >>Hughes Catherine A Ibbotson W. Derby 8b 1243 >>Ibbotson Leonard Hughes W.Derby 8b 1243 Kennedy Barbara Williams W.Derby 8b 1243 Williams Price G Kennedy W. Derby 8b 1243
And in 1918 he named his son Vibert!
Births Jun 1918 (>99%) Ibbotson Vibert Hughes W.Derby 8b 366
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30 Jul 2010 16:04 |
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IBBOTSON, Henry Head Widower M 63 1848 Night Watchman Yorks Royston VIEW IBBOTSON, William Son Single M 28 1883 Engine Driver Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Lillian Daughter Single F 26 1885 Housekeeper For Father Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Gordon Son Single M 24 1887 Painter Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Vibert Son Single M 23 1888 Cook Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Leonard Son Single M 21 1890 Clerk Shipping Lancs Liverpool VIEW IBBOTSON, Dorothy Granddaughter F 4 1907 Lancs Liverpool VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22337 Reference: RG14PN22337 RG78PN1319 RD455 SD2 ED7 SN122 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: Litherland Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Litherland Address: 30 Cunard Road Litherland Lancashire County: Lancashire
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30 Jul 2010 16:07 |
1891
Name: Henry Ibbotson Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: Royston, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Litherland County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Litherland ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Ibbotson 40 Harriet Ibbotson 38 Harry W Ibbotson 14 Oscar W Ibbotson 13 Fred Ibbotson 11 Willie Ibbotson 10 Lillian Ibbotson 9 Gordon Ibbotson 7 Robert Ibbotson 5 Leonard Ibbotson 1
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30 Jul 2010 16:08 |
cagsie /astra thats one vibert but i couldnt find anything on him my father in law is vibert born 1918 and leonard was his dad thats all i know
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30 Jul 2010 16:14 |
It is possible Jean that the Leonard listed above named his son Vibert after his brother! On the 1891 above he has been transcribed as Robert!
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30 Jul 2010 16:21 |
1901
Lkeonard Ibbotson Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Hariett Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Seaforth Ecclesiastical parish: Seaforth St Thomas County/Island: Lancashire Household Members: Name Age Henry Ibbotson 52>>>>Born Chevel Yorkshire Hariett Ibbotson 42>>>>Born Brewood Staffs Oscar Ibbotson 23 Fred Ibbotson 20 Willie Ibbotson 19 Lilian Ibbotson 17 Gordon Ibbotson 16 >>>Bertie Ibbotson 14>>>Vibert >>>Lkeonard Ibbotson 11>>>Leonard
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30 Jul 2010 16:31 |
In 1881 Henry is a Licensed Victualler living with Harriett, son Harry born 1877 (Liverpool) and Oscar and Fred
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30 Jul 2010 16:34 |
Henry and Harriet's marriage. These are your Leonard's parents.
Marriages Mar 1876 (>99%) Ellis Edward W Derby 8b 504 >>IBBOTSON Henry W Derby 8b 504 Riding Louisa W.Derby 8b 504 >>Taylor Harriet W Derby 8b 504
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30 Jul 2010 16:57 |
Name: Lillian Ibbetson Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Jun 1883 Baptism/Christening Place: St Margaret's, Anfield, Liverpool, Lancs, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Henry Ibbetson Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Harriet Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15623-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1545925 Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Harry Wilson Ibbotson Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jan 1877 Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Henry Ibbotson Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Harriet Ibbotson Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00797-0 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1656019 Reference Number: item 4 p 4 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Oscar Ibbotson Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Apr 1878 Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peter, Everton, Lancashire, England Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Henry Ibbotson Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Harriet Ibbotson Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00797-0 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1656019 Reference Number: item 4 p 31 Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
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30 Jul 2010 17:03 |
1871
Name: Henry Ibbotson Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Father's Name: Stephen Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Chevet, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Civil parish: Walton Town: Walton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Sandal ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 90 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Ibbotson 62 Mary Ibbotson 57 Stephen Ibbotson 25 Henry Ibbotson 22 Mary A Ibbotson 17 Susan Ibbotson 16 Laura J Ibbotson 14
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30 Jul 2010 17:17 |
hi my leonard had a brother called vibert and did call his son vibert vibert is such a unusual name
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30 Jul 2010 17:32 |
Dajean you won't find any other Viberts with a father Leonard.
Apologies if I am wrong, but perhaps you are new to researching family history.
This is the only birth of a Vibert Ibbotson, as Astra found:
Births Jun 1918 (>99%) Ibbotson Vibert Hughes W.Derby 8b 366
The above tells us that his birth was registered in the June quarter of 1918 (and I see from his death entry that his date of birth 12th May), in West Derby (which was the registration district for part of Liverpool), and his mother's maiden name was Hughes. The reference numbers 8b/366 will be needed if you want to order the birth certificate.
But it's pretty certain that this is his parents' marriage:
Marriages Dec 1915 (>99%) >>Hughes Catherine A Ibbotson W. Derby 8b 1243 >>Ibbotson Leonard Hughes W.Derby 8b 1243
And this is the likely death of Leonard:
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Leonard Ibbotson Name: Leonard Ibbotson Death Registration Month/Year: 1954 Age at death (estimated): 64 Registration district: Crosby Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10c Page: 88
On the census records posted here, his father Henry is born Royston, Yorkshire, so that ties in with your assumption that they were originally a Yorkshire family. It all seems quite safe to me. Leonard has a brother Vibert (mistranscribed as Bertie and Robert).
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30 Jul 2010 17:35 |
It's surprising how common some of these names are - there are plenty of Viberts around. I thought Saville was an unusual forename until I discovered thousands of them in Yorkshire.
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30 Jul 2010 18:58 |
madmeg my late father in law always said he was named after his dads brother so as my father in laws name was vibert we assumed virbert being his uncle
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30 Jul 2010 19:06 |
Dajean, yes, that is what we have found to be the case.
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