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Hi I am trying to locate information on a Mary Ann Harries born 1875/6 in Cardigan. she had 4 children David, Benjamin (my grand father), Margaret Ann and Gwilam Albro. I have some information on the family i.e. the children were all born at the St Dogmeals workhouse. Can anyone help with what happened to them? any descendants?

Many thanks for all help.

Linda Roberts

Dates of birth for the children would help -and the location of that workhouse?

Hello Linda - was Harries her maiden or married name?

Also, as for descendants - have you searched trees on this site for matches?

"St Dogmaels (Welsh: Llandudoch) is a village and community in Pembrokeshire, Wales"

For info

1901 Wales Census
about Mary Ann Harries Name: Mary Ann Harries
Age in 1901: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardigan, Cardiganshire, Wales

Civil parish: St Dogmael
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dogmael St Thomas
County/Island: Cardiganshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Cardigan
Sub-registration district: Cardigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 5135
Folio: 83
Page Number: 2

Mary Ann Harries 26
David J Harries 5
Benjamin Harries 1

(other names removed)

Andy

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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HARRIES Gwilym Ablro Cardigan 11b 5


Andy

No Mary Ann Harries born 1875/1876 in Cardigan.
These in 1874
Births Mar 1874
Harries Mary Anne Cardigan 11b 1
Births Dec 1874
Harries Mary Ann Cardigan 11b 3

Hi 1911 for david j

1911 census

Household information
Address Ysguborwen St Dogmells Pem
Parish St Dogmells Municipal
Town Dogmells Pem
Type of Building Farm House
Number of Rooms 8
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN33282 RG78PN1907 RD603 SD2 ED5 SN12
Administrative County Cardiganshire
Registration District Cardigan
Registration Sub District Cardigan
Enumeration District 5

Householder 1
Name Abraham Linch
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / 2 Years
Gender M
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Occupation Farmer
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth St Marys Cardigan
Language Both 2

Householder 2
Name Mary Hannah Linch
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / Years
Total Children Born Alive 1
Children Still Living 0
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender F
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Employed N
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth St Dogmells Pemb
Language Both 2

Householder 3
Name Amy Elizabeth Davies
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1904
Occupation Juvenile
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth St Dogmells Pemb
Language Both 2

Householder 4
Name Hannah Linch
Relationship to Head of Household
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 31
Estimated Year of Birth 1880
Occupation House Servant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Cardigan St Marys
Language Both 2

Householder 5
Name Benjamin Richards
Relationship to Head of Household Farm Servant
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1893
Occupation Farm Servant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth St Dogmells Pem
Language Both 2

Householder 6
Name David John Harries
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Farm Servant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth St Dogmells Pem
Language Both 2

Mary Ann Harries
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth 1875 —Cardigan, Cardiganshire
residence 31 Mar 1901 —St Dogmells Municipal (Pembroke), Cardiganshire, Wales
census 31 Mar 1901 —St Dogmells Municipal (Pembroke), Cardiganshire, Wales

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Mary Ann Harries
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 26
birthplace: Cardigan, Cardiganshire
record type: Household
registration district: Cardigan
sub-district: Cardigan
ecclesiastical parish: St Dogmells St Thomas
civil parish: St Dogmells Municipal (Pembroke)
county: Cardigan, Cardigan, St Dogmells Municipal (Pembroke), Cardiganshire

Looks like Margaret Ann could have been fostered

1911

JEREMIAH, Thomas Head Married M 49 1862 Labourer Cardigan Cardigan VIEW
JEREMIAH, Annie Wife Married
2 years F 47 1864 Malpas Cheshire VIEW
HARRIS, Margaret Ann Single F 8 1903 School Cardigan Cardigan VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
33279 Reference:
RG14PN33279 RG78PN1907 RD603 SD2 ED2 SN182

Registration District:
Cardigan Sub District:
Cardigan Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
Cardigan St Mary

Address:
13 Mwldan Cardigan County:
Cardiganshir

Two possible marriages

Surname First name(s) Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)
HARRIES Margaret A Owens Cardigan 11b 6

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
Harries Margaret A Davies Cardigan 11b 15a

Cardigan Workhouse

This institution, which is some way from the town, in fact across the river in St Dogmael's, was built in 1839/40 for the relief of the poor, needy and unfortunate of the district, following the passing of the infamous Poor Law Amendment Act in 1834. The building, intended to accommodate 120 inmates, was designed by William Owen of Haverfordwest. The workhouse layout followed the popular cruciform or "square" design, with its entrance block facing north-east. There were separate entrance doors for males and females.
The building, marked as Castle Albro on the OS map, is now privately owned.

Mary Ann Harries born 1874 Dec Q Cardigan 11b 3

1881 12 Eben St Cardigan St Mary
Benjamin Harris 45 Smith b Dinas Pembrokeshire
Anne 49 b Glamorgan
MARY A 8 b Cardigan

Benjamin Harries married Anne Richards 1864 Jun Q Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire
1871 Benjamin 33 and Anne 38 are childless and living Cardigan St Mary
1891 Benjamin 54 Blacksmith b Dinas and Anne 56 b Nantyglo Glamorgan are in Cardigan st Mary with Mary A aged 18

Hello you lovely people-thank you ever so much for all the fabulous information supplied so far you are gradually breaking down the 'brick walls' that I have been encountering. I have managed to get the children's dates of birth from the workhouse records as follows:-
1) David John-7/11/1895. 2 records in WW1 of PTE in Welsh reg and SRG in Warwick reg. We think the first would be hiim as he appeared to die in 1915. the latter in 1918. How can I verify this?
2) Benjamin -7/7/1899 -my grandfather who ran away from home and joined the army we think it was the South Staffs who ended up in India where he died in 1948.
3) Margaret Ann - 27/7/1903 - records from workhouse don't show her after 1905??
4) Gwillam Albro - 21/5/1906. - records from workhouse don't show him again.

The last time Mary Ann lived at the workhouse was from 31/8/1907-11/11/09 when David was with her and he was finally discharged presumably because he would be considered able to manage on his own aged 14 ?? joined the army.

Mary Ann's parents were Benjamin and Ann nee Elias - he was a blacksmith so the information from 1871, 1881 1891 seems to be the correct track.

Re Margaret Ann being fostered makes sense and now I need to follow up those two leads along with anything on Gwillam.

My sincere apologies for the lengthy message-I wanted to make sure I kept everyone in the loop-new to this business and am finding out how things work.
Thank you all again for your brilliant work and help. <3 <3 <3
Linda Roberts

PM from Linda:

Hello MarieCeleste, we think she never married - we heard third hand that she worked as a domestic in a large house from whence she seemed to disappear every so often to have her children-not even sure if the father is the same for all four. Also third hand there seems to have been a gardener who worked in the same area who may the father?? As you can see this is quite a puzzle-which my 83 year old mother desperately wants to find answers to.

Thank you again for all the valuable leads.

Thank you again for all the effort. For my part, I have logged a phone call with the registrar of BMD covering the Llanelly and Swansea areas to check if the two Mary Ann Harries as having died in the Oct/Nov/Dec 1913 quarter to see if we can check the date of birth and thereby confirm which one is my great grand mother- personally, I think the younger one as third hand we were told she was killed by a train whilst seeing her son Benjamin off to war. I make her age as 40 not 35 as shown - possible as they did not always give the correct information. Will keep digging and keep you informed of any developments.
Linda