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TRying to place Gertrude. There is no birth registered for Gertrude Louisa Cooke to fit the age given on her death. So I wondered if. in fact her marriage to Mr. Smith was actually her third as she was 44 years old when she married Mr. Denby. Not impossible for a first marriage to be later in life of course.

Marriages Mar 1928 (>99%)
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ALLEN David Leak Loughbro' 7a 183
COOKE Tommy Wells Loughbro' 7a 183
LEAK Violet M M Allen Loughbro' 7a 183
WELLS Gertrude L Coke Loughbro' 7a 183


Births Dec 1901 WELLS Gertrude Louisa Nottingham 7b 304


HOUSEHOLD WELLS GERTURDE LOUSIE F 1902 9 Loughborough Leicestershire

I don't have a sub to see who she is living with. Can someone check for me please? It may be a waste of time but I am trying to see if there is a Stevenson connection with her.

Re 1941 census

Affraid even if you were around for that, there was'nt one due to the war

jax

Kevin, back to basics. Exactly what official documentation do you have showing the dob as 16/06/1936?
So far rootgatherer's find of Leon's birth is the closest and a pressie of the certificate is the answer!
Life for a single mother 1936/1937 was very different from now and it may be that your father's mother was sent to stay in Derby before/after the birth to avoid local scandal. For certificate purposes Derby could well be a "red herring".
Did John William Smith work in Derby at some stage? Do you know if he was employed in (say) engineering (Rolls Royce, Railways etc)? Knowing his occupation could provide more leads.

Well as I have quite a few acquaintances, no, several friends and family born before 1930 who are still with us, I wasn't too surprised that there wasn't a death before 2005.

EDIT

Just wondering Kevin, if he was illegitimate and you don't know his mother's name how will you know when you find the correct birth certificate? I suppose you could then search for a death for his mother in the time scale that you have.


Personally, I would ask someone to splash out the £9.25 for Leon's birth certificate as a Christmas pressie! Even if only to eliminate him.

Looks like the way ive got to go, is there a death ?

Just as a by the way, there is no marriage showing on Ancestry for Leon B Stevenson - of course he may not have married or even emigrated.

Hi all
Just spoke to me mum the link is his DOB 16 June 1936, if ican find a match to that ? He went in the army under that, 1941 census would be useful, i might not be around for that ! War bonds had his dads name on ? ID Card during war ?

There is also a William John Smith.

This looks to be his death entry but older than the 72 years stated on the website?

Name: William John Smith
Birth Date: 1897
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1976
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Leicestershire Central
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 6
Page: 2534

There are deaths registered for:
John William Smith
12 June 1971

and:

Gertrude Louisa Smith
5 December 1965

Edit:
John's death and dob:

Name John William Smith
Year of Registration 1971
Quarter of Registration Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Leicester
Registration County Leicestershire
Date of Birth 31 July 1906
Volume Number 3A
Volume Page 1383

and Gertrude:

Name Gertrude L Smith
Year of Registration 1965
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Loughborough
Registration County Leicestershire
Age at Death: 64
Volume Number 3A
Volume Page 797

Thanks MarieCeleste. I was trying to cope with a driver malfunction, a post and a telephone call all at the same time. Known as multi-tasking!

Perhaps the step-parents are on that site.

Perchino, I hope you don't mind me re-posting your link as the one above didn't work:

http://www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/availablechurchandbu.html

Kevin, if you follow that link, it's the Register which Perchino listed and is at the very bottom of the page. It opens as an Excel spreadsheet. You will find what may be some useful contact info within the record.

Yes it is a possibility even if he was known as Leo.

I saw that birth rootgatherer, wondered if he was called "Len" and Leonard would be the first assumption.
Perhaps the Death Certificate would give more clues.

????

I wonder if his age was a year out?

Births Sep 1937 Stevenson Leon B Stevenson Barrow S. 7a 243

Hi all
Thanks for helping, Ancestry birth not him. Im told he got his surname from his real dad, or maybe his mum who wasnt married? Who knows?16/6/1936 has to mean somthing, all i can think of is he must be registered with another name besides Leonard .
??????? L Stevenson.

Looks as though Leonard's death in September 2009 is on this site:

Barrow Upon Soar - Available Church and Burial Records ...
23 Jan 2011 ... There is a civic cemetery at Cotes Road, Barrow upon Soar. The records are held at the Parish Council Office, 12 High Street, Barrow upon ...

www.leicestershirevillages.com/barrowuponsoar/availablechurchan

Barrow Cemetery Register 2004-2010
Burial number: 2110
Age: 73

Name: Gertrude L Cooke
Spouse Surname: Denby, Arthur E
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1945
Registration district: Barrow-Upon-Soar
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 445

?? this marriage
SMITH, William J
Registration District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire
Year of Registration: 1951
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse Denby Or Cooke Gertrude L
Volume No: Help 3A
Page No: Help 2225

If his Dad was John William Smith, why would Leonard's surname be Stevenson?

Is this the Ancestry one you referr to please?

Name: Leonard J Stevenson
Mother's Maiden Surname: Summers
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 649