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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 21:09

So it doesn't look like she left her husband and children behind - she left after he had died in 1906.

If she'd changed her mind then it certainly wasn't as soon as she arrived!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 21:08

Jane still alive in 1910, and her daughter had joined her:

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Dorothy J Jordan
Age in 1910: 53
Birth Year: 1857
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Salt Lake City Ward 2, Salt Lake, Utah
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1908
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors:

Household Members:
Name Age
John T Green 35
Margaret Green 31
Jane H Green 8
Louis Green 7
Annie Green 5
Wilfred Green 3
Arthur Green 1 1/12 [1]
Dorothy J Jordan 53
Eva Jordan 19

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 21:00

Mary, where did you get the info? I'm struggling to find those records!

EDIT: Found the shipping

This must have been arriving from England:

Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Dorothy Jordan
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1907
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Republic
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Maggia Green - daughter?
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: Willington co durham,

Going to Salt Lake City, son-in-law paid passage.

Mary

Mary Report 22 Aug 2012 20:57

Ralph died 1906.
Now Jane Jordan becomes Dorothy Jane Jordan went to Salt lake 1907.On the SS Republic to her daughter and son in laws.

1910 Shows her a widow born Willington and daughter Eva 1891 born England.
Head of House John Thomas green married to Maggie green(Margaret Crozier Jordan born 1879)
They emigrated 1905 To Salt Lake City.

Maryb.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 20:53

Appears Ralph died 1906:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Ralph Crozier Jordan
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906
Age at Death: 50
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 258

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 20:49

1901:

JORDAN, Ralph Head Married M 44 1857 Coal Miner Hewer Willington, Durham
JORDAN, Jane Wife Married F 41 1860 Willington, Durham
JORDAN, John Thos Son Single M 19 1882 Hand Putter Underground Brandon, Durham
JORDAN, George Son Single M 16 1885 Pony Putter Underground Brandon, Durham
JORDAN, Stephen Son M 12 1889 At School Spennymoor, Durham
JORDAN, Eva Daughter F 9 1892 At School Spennymoor, Durham

Piece: 4683 Folio: 128 Page: 4
Registration District: Durham
Civil Parish: Belmont

Address: 33, Dragon Ville, Belmont, Dragon Ville County: Durham

Mary

Mary Report 22 Aug 2012 20:38

Jane Bunting born @ 1860 married 1/3/1879 to Ralph Crozier Jordon.
1901 Durham belmont D 11 > 4
Ralph Jordan
Jane Jordan born Willington and 4 children next door to
Thomas Bunting and Margaret Bunting.

Maryb.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 22 Aug 2012 20:16

Just for interest.............................................

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close
Name: BUNTING, Blacket
Registration district: Durham
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1884
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 439

Blacket Bunting married SPEAR, Annie



Deaths Mar 1917
Bunting Blackett 63 Auckland 10a 298



1901 census
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4647
Folio: 119
Page: 36
Reg. District: Auckland
Sub District: Bishop Auckland
Parish: East Thickley
Enum. District: 31
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1, Temperance Yard, East Thickley, New Shildon
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
BUNTINE, Blackett Head Widower M 47 1854 Coal Miner Hewer
Coxhoe, Durham
HOLMES, Sarah House Keeper Single F 33 1868 Housekeeper Domestic
Shildon, Durham
BUNTINE, Annie J Housekeeper's Daur Single F 12 1889
Shildon, Durham
BUNTINE, Lily Housekeeper's Daur Single F 9 1892
Shildon, Durham
BUNTINE, Jane Housekeeper's Daur Single F 7 1894
Shildon, Durham
BUNTINE, Robert Housekeeper's Son Single M 5 1896
Shildon, Durham
BUNTINE, Thomas Housekeeper's Son Single M 3 1898
Shildon, Durham
BUNTINE, George Housekeeper's Son Single M 0 (4 MOS) 1901
Shildon, Durham




1911 census transcription details for: 4 Redworth Road New Shildon
RG14PN29748 RG78PN1721 RD547 SD1 ED46 SN436
Reg. District: Auckland
Sub District: Bishop Auckland
Parish: East Thickley
Enum. District: 46
Address: 4 Redworth Road New Shildon
County: Durham
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
BUNTING, Blackett Head Married M 54 1857 Coal Miner Shifter Coxhoe Co Durham
BUNTING, Sarah Ann Wife Married
4 years F 43 1868 Old Shildon Co Durham
HOLMES, Lily Mather Stepdaughter Single F 19 1892 Old Shildon Co Durh
HOLMES, Robert B Stepson M 15 1896 New Shildon Co Durham
HOLMES, Thomas B Stepson M 13 1898 New Shildon Co Durham
HOLMES, George B Son M 10 1901 New Shildon Co Durham
BUNTING, Edna Mary Daughter F 4 1907 New Shildon Co Durham
BUNTING, Gladys Daughter F 2 1909 New Shildon Co Durham


Marriages Jun 1906
Bunting Blackett Auckland 10a 456
HOLMES Sarah Ann Auckland 10a 456



JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 22 Aug 2012 19:04

No, Peter, I've not heard of the Bunting Society. I'll give it a try though.

However, although this family has the surname Bunting, we can only be sure that Robert Bunting is really a Harland as his mother, Hannah, lost her husband twelve years before Robert was born and Robert was given Hannah's married surname anyway.

We'll see if there's anything on that site, though.

Thanks.

Petef

Petef Report 22 Aug 2012 17:24


Have you tried the Bunting Society, www.buntingsociety.org ?

Excellent resource, it has been around for years.

Peter

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 22 Aug 2012 16:33

Thanks Marie Celeste.

I've dug out the paperwork and found that Jane was born around 1860 in the Brancepeth/Willington area of County Durham. Violet is actually her aunt although Jane is about four years younger than Violet. Jane was the daughter of Thomas Harland Bunting and Dorothy Sims who married in 1859 at Durham.

I'll have a root-around myself to find who she married and if I fail I'll wake up the two relatives and see if they can recall more of the family story and who Jane married.
One relative is older than me and one younger but it was interesting that both of them told me the story when I met up with them separately.

I'll be in touch; many thanks.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 Aug 2012 16:14

JoyLouise - do you know the married name of the sister Jane? When was she born? I could then start looking at US arrivals etc to see if anything turns up ...

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 22 Aug 2012 16:05

... and here we go again.

I found a baptism entry in the Durham Records Office for Jane Elizabeth Bunting in 1862 but she died in 1864. She was the daughter of Robert and Jane.

I now have the birth certificate for Jane Elizabeth's sister, Violet (aka Violetta) Bunting who was born on 1 July 1864 at Newfield, Bishop Auckland District, Co Durham. This confirms that Violet (according to BC) is indeed the daughter of Robert and Jane too.

I'm stuck now because I don't know what happened to Violet; I can find no marriage or death recorded so perhaps she changed her name.

However, two different relatives (who do not know each other) have both told me that Violet's sister Jane went to the USA to join the Mormons so perhaps Violet went with her. Jane was believed to have already married and she left husband and children behing. Apparently, she changed her mind and began the journey back to the UK, dying in NY state from where the Mormons collected her body and took it back to Utah for burial.

Can anyone point me in the right direction so I can check with the Mormon Church whether this could be true, please, as Violet is proving to be the mystery woman.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 31 Jan 2012 10:46

Have pm'd you Joy.

Mel

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 30 Jan 2012 19:25

Back again.

The surname of Violet who's blind has been wrongly transcribed; it is Brunton.

I continue my search so I can get my tree rright.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 8 Jan 2012 11:05

Well I have looked and looked but can find nothing further.

Joy if you wish me to conatact the people with Blacket on their private tree send me your email addy by pm and I will forward it on to them.

Mel

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2012 20:51

Can't do it now but will try in the morning if thats ok.

Someone has just turned up.

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 7 Jan 2012 20:09

You're right. Drat! Violet found by Mel is not the one I'm looking for and since you've given me the name 'Brunton' I've found the family and mine's not Brunton.

Yes, there is a Philadelphia near Durham; there are also two Torontos, one Quebec and a Washington all close to Durham itself. There are probably more than I know of!

I'll keep searching ... and searching ...

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Jan 2012 20:05

I think the Bounton family from 1901 is actually Brunton.

EDIT Seems to confirm what Londonbelle has found

I think this is Robert from 1911

1911 England Census
about Robert Brunton
Name: Robert Brunton
Age in 1911: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Houghton Le Spring, Durham, England
Civil parish: Tunstall
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Frances Street
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Coal Miner Stone Worker
Registration district: Sunderland
Registration District Number: 555
Sub-registration district: Ryhope
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Piece: 30255
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Brunton 66
Isabella Falcus 58




and this is the death for Violet

Deaths Dec 1908 (>99%)
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Brunton Violet 41 Sunderland 10a 457


Andy

JoyLouise

JoyLouise Report 7 Jan 2012 20:03

Thanks Mel.

The only Hannah and Robert I've found are brother and sister!

I don't think this is a goer because in 1901 Hannah is living with husband, James Doy and Robert is registered as Bunting with wife Elizabeth.

I don't think they would have registered a separate dwelling and what looks like a second family between them! (I know stranger things have happened, though.)

I can't find Violet, John, Robert or Hannah together in the 1871 or 1881 Censuses where the Violet I'm searching for is living with Robert and Jane at Shotton, Durham.