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Henry Lane/ Honorah Fitzgerald

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Bridgewell

Bridgewell Report 19 May 2012 16:55

I'm looking for Henry Lane and Honorah Fitzgerald who were Bridget Lane, my Gt Grandmothers parents. All I know is from her birth cert. born 21/3/1851 at 14 Romney Place,Holland St. St.John's, Westminster. Father was Henry Lane, occupation listed as Police Constable. Mother listed as Honora Lane nee Fitzgerald. Bridget was baptised a Catholic at St.Mary's Chapel,Westminster. And when Bridget married Henry Mooney at St.Mary's on 24/Aug/1882 it sayes Henry Lane decd. Could anyone help with any info on these 2 ?
Thanking you all in advance.
Bridgewell

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 17:13

Have you found them on the censuses?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 May 2012 17:16

Have you tried FreeBMD

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 18:00

I cant see Bridget or Henry and Honara on any census

Bridget pops up when married but before that....zilch

Lynda

Lynda Report 19 May 2012 18:03

This is 14 Romney Place,Holland St. 1851 .Only 10 days after Bridget was born .Not the Lanes you would expect but is there a connection ?
1851 census - address transcription
Address: 14, Romney Place, Saint John The Evangelist, Westminster
Sched Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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22 NEAIL, Daniel Head Married M 29 1822 Gas Labourer Kerry
Ireland VIEW
22 NEAIL, Anna Wife Married F 29 1822 Kerry
Ireland VIEW
22 NEAIL, Michael Son M 4 1847 Westminster
Middlesex VIEW
22 NEAIL, Daniel Son M 3 1848 Westminster
Middlesex VIEW
22 NEAIL, Patrick Brother Married M 39 1812 Gas Labourer Kerry
Ireland VIEW
22 NEAIL, Anna Sister Mother Widow F 50 1801 Laundress Kerry
Ireland VIEW
22 NEAIL, John Son M 2 1849 Westminster
Middlesex VIEW
22 NEAIL, Mary Daughter F 0 1851 Westminster
Middlesex VIEW
22 LAIN, Henry Lodger Married M 27 1824 Gas Labourer Tipperary
Ireland VIEW
22 LAIN, Ann Wife Married F 26 1825 Tipperary
Ireland VIEW
22 LAIN, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 1851 Westminster
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1479 Folio:
297 Page:
7

Sub District:
Saint John the Evangelist Enumeration District:
9 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Saint Matthews

Municipal Borough:
Westminster Address:
14, Romney Place, Saint John The Evangelist, Westminster County:
Middlesex



AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 May 2012 18:04

1881

Henry MOONEY Head M Male 34 Westminster, Middlesex, England Accoutrement Maker (Unemployed)
Bridget MOONEY Wife M Female 30 Westminster, Middlesex, England Laundress
Henry C. MOONEY Son Male 11 Westminster, Middlesex, England Scholar
Peter MOONEY Son Male 9 Westminster, Middlesex, England Scholar
Mary MOONEY Daur Female 7 Westminster, Middlesex, England Scholar
James MOONEY Son Male 4 Westminster, Middlesex, England Scholar
Ellen MOONEY Daur Female 1 Westminster, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 12 New Peter St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341025
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0112 / 52
Page Number 31

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 May 2012 18:12

???

1881

Ann LANE Head W Female 56 Clonis, Ireland
Ann LANE Daur U Female 22 Hackney, Middlesex, England
John Hurst LANE Son U Male 19 Hackney, Middlesex, England Clerk
John Frederic LANE Brother U Male 71 Southwark, Surrey, England Scripture Reader


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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Lauriston Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341067
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0313 / 73
Page Number 30

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 18:44

Gaelic names, maybe they were in Ireland, hence no census info?

Gee

Gee Report 19 May 2012 21:50

Bill, dont send me random messages by PM


Please post on here, so everyone can help

x

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2012 04:51

There does not seem to be an Elizabeth Lain born 1851 in London

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2012 05:13

Bill


you say Bridget Lane married Henry Mooney in 1882


Is that correct???


Because there is a Bridget and Henry Mooney on the 1871 Census?


1871 Census

Name: Bridget Mooney
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Mooney
Gender: Female
Where born: Westr, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St John The Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster

Henry Mooney 24 b.ca 1847, Westminster, Middlesex, Labourer
Bridget Mooney 20
Henry Mooney 1 b.ca 1870, Westminster

Address:- 9 New Peter Street



same family in 1881 .................

1881 Census

Name: Bridget Mooney
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Mooney
Gender: Female
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 12 New Peter St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Laundress

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

Henry Mooney 34 b.ca 1847, Westminster, Middlesex, Accoutrement Maker (unemployed)
Bridget Mooney 30
Henry C. Mooney 11
Peter Mooney 9
Mary Mooney 7
James Mooney 4
Ellen Mooney 1



In 1891, Henry's occupation was "Army Recruiting"

In 1901, he was a "Harness Maker"

and in 1911 an "Army Accoutrement Maker"


1911 Census

Name: Henry Mooney
Age in 1911: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Minster <<<<<<<<<<<<<< I think this means Westminster
Civil parish: St Margaret and St John
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 44 Tufton St, Westminster
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: ARMY ACCOUTREMENT MAKER
Registration district: St George, Hanover Square
Registration District Number: 5
Sub-registration district: St Margaret and St John

Henry Mooney 65
Bridget Mooney 60 b.ca 1851, Minster
Annie Mooney 23
Norah Mooney 17


Married 40 years

Had 9 children, 1 died




so it looks as though they got married a number of years after they first started living together.



Unfortunately, the family seems to be Catholic, and there are few records from Catholic churches on the internet.





sylvia

Bridgewell

Bridgewell Report 20 May 2012 15:47

The Family were Catholic and I have checked at St.Mary's Chapel,St.Peter+St.Edwards Church and Westminster Cathedral, and found nothing about Bridgets family.
Many Thanks
Bill

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 20 May 2012 15:57

Hello Bill, did you get Bridget's maiden name from one of the children's birth certificates or another source?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Jul 2012 19:37

pm from Bill:

"Hi
I got Bridget Lane's name from both her BirthCert. and her Marriage Cert and her name also is the same on her childrens Birth Certs.
Regards "

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 Aug 2012 04:25

I wonder???

861 England Census about Bridget Burgess
Name: Bridget Burgess
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Burgess
Mother's Name: Hannah Burgess
Gender: Female
Where born: Westr, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Westminster St John the Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 235
Piece: 48
Folio: 69
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
John Burgess 27
Hannah Burgess 39 Born Limerick, Ireland
Bridget Burgess 10
John Burgess 6
Mary Burgess 4
Margaret Burgess 1

Address is 7 Holland Street.

Possible marriage??


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
>>>>>>>Burgess John Westminster 1a 502
>>>>>>Lane Honora Westminster 1a 502
Stokes Richard Westminster 1a 502
Woods Mary Susanah Westminster 1a 502

Now I know the the name Honora can be written amd spelt in many ways, taking into account accents it can also be mistaken for Hannah too???

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 Aug 2012 04:35

I wonder if the surname should be Lane???

1881 England Census about Mary Lowe
Name: Mary Lowe
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Step Daughter
Mother's Name: Hannah Burgess
Gender: Female
Where born: Westmr, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 28 Great Peter St
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Domestic Servant
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 112
Folio: 76
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Burgess 47
Hannah Burgess 57
Margaret Burgess 21
Mary Lowe 23

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 Aug 2012 04:42

1871 England Census about Mary Lane
Name: Mary Lane
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Hannah Burgen
Gender: Female
Where born: West
Civil parish: St John The Evangelist
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: St John Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 83
Piece: 120
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
John Burgen 37
Hannah Burgen 47
Margt Burgen 11
John Lane 16
Mary Lane 13

Address is 24 Gt Peter Street.

I think I would possibly buy the John Burgess and Honora Lane marriage certificate...... It should give Honora's maiden name.

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 Aug 2012 05:13

Probably Hannah's ( Honora's) death;


Deaths Mar 1887 (>99%)
Burgess Honora 58 St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 354

Bridgewell

Bridgewell Report 2 Aug 2012 13:33

Well People, again Thank You so much for your help. Looking at the Baptism entries for 2 of Bridget's children Peter+Ellen, Godparents are listed a John Burgess and Margaret Burgess !
Thanks again this will further my quest.
Bridgewell