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**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Jun 2012 19:44

BAILEY, John [1803 - 1830>]

BAILEY
John
1803 - 1830>
The son of John and Grace BAILEY (n?e BEDFORD), John was baptised at Preston Capes on 27 Mar 1803. He was employed as a farm labourer and married Charlotte HARDMAN by banns at Preston Capes on 18 Sep 1823.
Parents
BAILEY, John 1769 - 1852 [View]
BEDFORD, Grace ] [View]
BAILEY, John [1826 - 1827] [View]
BAILEY, Ann [1827 - 1830>] [View]
BAILEY, Jane [1830 - 1830>] [View]

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jax

jax Report 18 Jun 2012 15:25

That is probably because they did not register the child with a middle name...then at a later date either the parents or child added one...maybe after the baptism?

My grandmother added two middle names when she married believing they were her names...which of course they were not, it was what she was led to believe to be her names and it was only after she managed to get a copy of her birth cert when she was in her 60s she found out what her name was

beanie

beanie Report 18 Jun 2012 15:19

It's hit and miss :-) That's confirmed by the existence of middle names on the census that are not detailed in the birth records held on Free BMD.

jax

jax Report 18 Jun 2012 14:36

I think you will find that freebmd does publish the middle names early on...it is only after 1911 that an initial is used

beanie

beanie Report 18 Jun 2012 14:25

Hello Rootgatherer, I missed that actually!!!! I do use Free BMD the issue is, despite my ancestors having the decency to ensure that their children had meaningful middle names (all for my personal benefit of course), Free BMD rarely ever publishes the middle names so early on. So, when a change of geography occurs, it can be a bit tricky if it isn't a local change!

Thanks so much for all the information so far, going back to early than 1800 is presumably very tricky but who was John Bailey of 1803's father and brothers and sisters? I have looked on familysearch.org and I think his name was also John who married Ann Overton, not sure how to identify any brothers, sisters or to clarify that!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Jun 2012 13:08

So...... you don't think that it was Harriet Morton?

As I said in that post, the only way to be sure is to buy Bromley's birth certificate.. If Harriett had been married previously it should show on the birth certificate.

Births Jun 1879 Bailey Bromley John Foleshill 6d 515

jax

jax Report 18 Jun 2012 13:02

Have you tried looking up the marriages ect yourself?

Freebmd is easy enough to use, which you have been told about on your other threads or familysearch for info before 1837

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

https://familysearch.org/

beanie

beanie Report 18 Jun 2012 12:45

What was the maiden name of Harriet born 1839 who married Charles Bailey born 1840?

Thanks :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Jun 2012 09:56

Name: Sarah Bailey
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Aug 1836
Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN,RUGBY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 28 Dec 1834
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Bailey
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Charlote Hardman <<<<<<<<
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07739-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0825431 (RG4 2978)
Reference Number:


Name: John Bailey
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 05 Sep 1847
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT GEORGE,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 24 Oct 1846
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Bailey
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04178-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 588400, 588401
Reference Number:


Name: Thomas Bailey
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Aug 1836
Baptism/Christening Place: WESLEYAN,RUGBY,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 21 Jul 1836
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Bailey
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Charlote Hardman
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07739-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 0825431 (RG4 2978)
Reference Number:


rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 18 Jun 2012 09:49

???

Marriages Sep 1865
Bailey Charles Birmingham 6d 49 <<<<<<<<<
Hewin Annie Birmingham 6d 49
Morton Harriet Birmingham 6d 49 <<<<<<<<<
Salisbury Edward Birmingham 6d 49


Bromley's birth certificate will confirm his mother's maiden surname.

Births Jun 1879 Bailey Bromley John Foleshill 6d 515


Quoy

Quoy Report 18 Jun 2012 07:04

Harriet Morgan Bayley
event: Christening
event date: 20 Jan 1877
event place: Newbold-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England
father: Charles Wesley Bayley
mother: Harriet Bayley
digital folder number: 4292061

Rose Emma Bayley
event: Christening
event date: 21 Jan 1877
event place: Newbold-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England
father: Charles Wesley Bayley
mother: Harriet Bayley
digital folder number: 4292061

Beatrice Dulcie Bailey
event: Christening
event date: 07 Aug 1881
event place: Keresley, Warwickshire, England
father: Charles Wesley Bailey
mother: Harriet Bailey
digital folder number: 4292034

Charles Herbert Bailey
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Nov 1872
baptism/christening place: NEWBOLD ON AVON,WARWICK,ENGLAND
father's name: Charles Bailey
mother's name: Harriet
indexing project (batch) number: C04562-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 555375, 576942


Laura Lizzie Bailey
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 18 Sep 1870
baptism/christening place: NEWBOLD ON AVON,WARWICK,ENGLAND
father's name: Charles Bailey
mother's name: Harriet
indexing project (batch) number: C04562-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 555375, 576942

Quoy

Quoy Report 18 Jun 2012 06:55

Hello

baptism

Bromley John Bailey
Parish: Keresley and Coundon
Baptism Date: 7 Aug 1881
Father's Name: Charles Wesley Bailey
Mother's name: Harriet Bailey

birth
NAME:
Charles Wesley Bailey
BIRTH:
Oct 1839 - Rugby, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire

beanie

beanie Report 18 Jun 2012 03:45

Also who was John Bailey born 1803's parents, did he have brothers and sisters and where were they from?

Thanks

beanie

beanie Report 18 Jun 2012 03:27

Hello, thanks for that, what was the maiden name of Charlotte born 1801 who married John Bailey born 1803? They were born in the Rugby/wider Warwickshire area?

What was the maiden name of Harriet born 1839 who married Charles Bailey born 1840?

Thanks :-)

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Jun 2012 02:09

1841 Possible for Bromleys father Charles



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Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
BAILEY, John M 38 1803 VIEW
BAILEY, Charlotte F 40 1801 Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Betsy F 17 1824 VIEW
BAILEY, Ann F 14 1827 VIEW
BAILEY, Jane F 11 1830 VIEW
BAILEY, John M 9 1832 VIEW
BAILEY, Willim M 8 1833 VIEW
BAILEY, Sarah F 6 1835 Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Thos M 4 1837 Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Rebecca F 3 1838 Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Charles M 1 1840 Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Harriet F 0 (2 months) 1841 Warwickshire VIEW
CHMABERLAIN, Richd M 15 1826 VIEW Piece: 1137 Book/Folio: 15/4 Page: 2      Registration District: Rugby Civil Parish: Newbold on Avon Municipal Borough: Address: Long Lawford, Newbold On Avon, Long Lawford County: Warwickshire redefine current search back to search resultsback to search results
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**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Jun 2012 01:48

1911



Name Relation Condition /
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
BAILEY, Laura Head Single F 39 1872 Housekeeper Long Lawford Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Herbert Brother Single M 37 1874 Milkseller Long Lawford Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Bromley Brother Single M 31 1880 Printer Compositor Withybrook Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Dulcie Sister Single F 29 1882 Coundon Warwickshire VIEW
NURSE, Eveline Boarder Single F 27 1884 Dressmaker Coventry Warwickshire VIEW
OLDHAM, Mary Visitor Widow F 71 1840 Long Lawford Warwickshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 18541 Reference: RG14PN18541 RG78PN1111 RD390 SD2 ED3 SN34 Registration District: Coventry Sub District: Holy Trinity Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Coventry Address: 9 Trinity Terrace Radford Coventry County: Warwickshire

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Jun 2012 01:46

1901




Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
BAILEY, Charles W Head Married M 60 1841 Farm Bailiff
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Harriett Wife Married F 59 1842
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Laura L Daughter Single F 30 1871 Dressmaker
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Herbert C Son Single M 28 1873 Milkman
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Hattie Daughter Single F 24 1877 Photographer's Assistt
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Bromley J Son Single M 22 1879 Printer's Compositor
Withybrook, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Dulcie B Daughter Single F 19 1882 Milliner's Assistant
Coundon, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 2910 Folio: 83 Page: 14      Registration District: Coventry Civil Parish: Coventry Municipal Borough: Address: Hill Farm, Radford, Coventry County: Warwickshire

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Jun 2012 01:44

1891



BAYLEY, Charles Weslley Head Married M 48 1843 Manager Of Farm
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLEY, Harriet Wife Married F 48 1843
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLEY, Laura Daughter Single F 20 1871 Dressmaker
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLEY, Herbert Son Single M 18 1873 Milkman
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLEY, Bromley Son Single M 12 1879 Scholar
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLEY, Dulcie Daughter Single F 9 1882 Scholar
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW
BAYLEY, Hattie Daughter Single F 14 1877 Scholar
Rugby, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 2455 Folio: 145 Page: 18      Registration District: Coventry Civil Parish: Coventry Holy Trinity Municipal Borough: Coventry Address: Home Farm, Kings Fields, Coventry Holy Trinity, Radford, Coventry County: Warwickshire

**Ann**

**Ann** Report 18 Jun 2012 01:40


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
BAILEY, Chas Or Chaus W Head Married M 41 1840 Ag Lab
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Harriet Wife Married F 42 1839
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Laura L Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Herbert C Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Harriet M Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Long Lawford, Warwickshire VIEW
BAILEY, Bromley J Son Single M 2 1879
Withebrook, Warwickshire VIEW Piece: 3055 Folio: 101 Page: 10      Registration District: Meriden Civil Parish: Coundon Municipal Borough: Address: Fillongley Road, Coundon County: Warwickshire

beanie

beanie Report 18 Jun 2012 01:33

i'm really sorry - i typed the wrong year of birth a couple of minutes ago - i have edited it and it is now correct.