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HOWARD/HIGHT MARRIAGE?

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Sonya

Sonya Report 31 Jul 2012 23:22

Please can anyone help with this one,I have Anna Howard 1839 Tenterden age 72 in 1911 living with he brother Frederick in Bromley. She is a widow name Hight with two children Kathleen born 1877 and Ada 1878 both born Peckham Rye Surrey. There was a Charles Hight staying with the Howard family in Tenterden in 1861 he was 12 and born London (census says son in law of John Howard) but too young to be married . I found a death and probate for Charles Hight 1893 making Frederick Howard exec.
I cannot find a marriage for Anna and Charles..or reg. of births of children.HELP PLEASE

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 31 Jul 2012 23:27

Births Jun 1876

HIGHT Kathleen Camberwell 1d 782

Roy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Jul 2012 23:28

Hi Sonya - just one quick point, back in those days "son-in-law" was also used as another term for step-son.

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 31 Jul 2012 23:29

Births Dec 1877

HIGHT Ada Camberwell 1d 797

Roy

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jul 2012 23:32

??????????

Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)
HIGHT Charles Colchester 4a 364
Howard Ann Colchester 4a 364

The district Colchester is in the county of Essex

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 31 Jul 2012 23:33

Marriages Mar 1872

HIGHT Charles Colchester 4a 364
Howard Ann Colchester 4a 364
Hurlihy Mary Ann Colchester 4a 364
Rogan William Colchester 4a 364


Roy

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jul 2012 23:34

1881 census -

HIGHT, Charles Head Married M 42 1839 Chartered Accountant Stepney, Middlesex VIEW
HIGHT, Ann Wife Married F 42 1839 Accountants Wife Tenterden, Kent VIEW
HIGHT, Kathleen Daughter Single F 4 1877 Peckham Rye, Surrey VIEW
HIGHT, Ada Daughter Single F 3 1878 Peckham Rye, Surrey VIEW
VENIS, Jane M Servant Single F 40 1841 General Serv Domestic Lambeth, Surrey VIEW

Piece: 854
Folio: 85
Page: 8
Registration District: Bromley
Civil Parish: Bromley
Municipal Borough:
Address: 123, Homesdale Rd, Bromley
County: Kent

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2012 23:37

1881

Name: Kathleen Hight
Age: 4
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1877
Birthplace: Peckham Rye, Surrey, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation:
Address: 123 Homesdale Rd
Census Place: Bromley, Kent, England


Head Charles Hight M 42 Stepney, Middlesex, England
Wife Ann Hight F 42 Tenterden, Kent, England
Daughter Kathleen Hight F 4 Peckham Rye, Surrey, England
Daughter Ada Hight F 3 Peckham Rye, Surrey, England
Servant Jane M Venis F 40 Lambeth, Surrey, England




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Marriages Mar 1872
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HIGHT Charles Colchester 4a 364
Howard Ann Colchester 4a 364
Hurlihy Mary Ann Colchester 4a 364
Rogan William Colchester 4a 364

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 31 Jul 2012 23:37

1911 is shown as HIGHS

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Jul 2012 23:38

It was the 1851 where Charles was shown as son-in-law. It implies he is Catherine's son from a previous relationship:

HOWARD, William Head Married M 41 1810 Currier Tenterden, Kent
HOWARD, Catherine Wife Married F 40 1811 Currier Wife Deptford, Kent
HOWARD, John Son M 15 1836 Scholar Tenterden, Kent
HOWARD, Albert Son M 11 1840 Scholar Milborne, Somersetshire
HOWARD, Frances Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar Stourbridge West, Worcestershire
HIGHT, Charles Son In Law M 12 1839 Scholar London
HOWARD, Agnes Daughter F 1 1850 At Home Tenterden, Kent
GREENHILL, Elizabeth Servant F 14 1837 Servant Rolvenden, Kent

Piece: 1620 Folio: 236 Page: 39
Registration District: Tenterden
Civil Parish: Tenterden
Municipal Borough: Tenterden

Address: West Cross, Tenterden County: Kent

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jul 2012 23:38

1911 original states Anne had 3 children, 1 died.

Possible??????????????

Births Jun 1873 (>99%)
Hight Howard Camberwell 1d 672
Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%)
HIGHT Howard 0 Camberwell 1d 416

Mike *

Mike * Report 31 Jul 2012 23:39

Births Sep 1838 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HOWARD Ann - Tenterden 5 389

Lynski

Lynski Report 31 Jul 2012 23:40

1911 on FMP

HOWARD, Frederic Head Single M 60 1851 Dental Mechanic Tenterden Kent VIEW
HOWARD, Kate Sister Single F 58 1853 Tenterden Kent VIEW
HOWARD, Emma Sister Single F 56 1855 Tenterden Kent VIEW
HIGHT, Anne Sister Widow F 72 1839 Tenterden Kent VIEW
HIGHT, Kathleen Niece Single F 34 1877 Female Clerk Second Class Peckham Rye S E VIEW
HIGHT, Ada Niece Single F 33 1878 Peckham Rye S E VIEW
RAYNER Servant Married8 years F 31 1880 Cook General Sutton Surrey VIEW

RG number: RG14
Piece: 3649
Reference: RG14PN3649 RG78PN137 RD42 SD1 ED20 SN212
Registration District: Bromley
Sub District: Bromley
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Bromley
Address: 26 Bromley Common Bromley Kent
County: Kent

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 31 Jul 2012 23:40

CAMBERWELL REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : London (1837–1965), Greater London (1965–91).
Created : 1.7.1837 (originally "St. Giles Camberwell").
Abolished : 1.10.1991 (to become part of Southwark registration district).
Sub-districts : Camberwell, Camberwell North, Camberwell North West, Camberwell South, Camberwell South East, Dulwich, East Dulwich, North Camberwell, North West Camberwell, Peckham, Peckham North, Peckham South, St. George, St. Giles.
GRO volumes : IV (1837–51), 1d (1852–1946), 5C (1946–65), 5A (1965–74), 11 (1974–91).
Registers now held by : Southwark


Roy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Jul 2012 23:41

Charles' baptism:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Charles Hight
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1839
Baptism Date: 10 Mar 1839
Father's Name: Richard Hight - Fishmonger
Mother's Name: Catharine Hight
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

They lived in Vine Cottage, Stepney.

Sonya

Sonya Report 31 Jul 2012 23:44

Thank you so much. Brilliant so late at night. I think the Ann/Anna threw me. I see that son in law could be step son. I think Annas father John Howard may have married Catherine (she may have been a widow) I found a Charles Hight born in workhouse in London.Right year poss. father Richard Hight mother Catherine. Cant find the record now. Better go to bed!! sonya

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Jul 2012 23:46

Marriage of Catherine Hight to WILLIAM Howard:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Catherine Hight
Spouse Name: William Howard - Currier
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Mar 1849
Parish: Poplar All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Obree - Shipwright
Spouse Father Name: James Howard - Farmer
Register Type: Parish Register

The couple were both of full age, both lived Poplar and were both widowed.

Witnesses: Bassett (???) Hancock and Mary Hancock.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Jul 2012 23:51

Catherine's first marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Catharine Obree, spinster of St LAwrence, Southampton, Hants.
Spouse Name: Richard Hight, bachelor. Fishmonger of 3 Billingsgate City
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Jun 1838
Parish: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Obree - Boat Builder
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Hight - Officer Engine Parts (??)
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: John O'Bree and Mary Jane Olinee (??)

Isabel

Isabel Report 4 Feb 2013 02:04

This may be of interest; Ada Hight was the informant re the death of Jemima Catherine
Johnston in Portobello, Midlothian, 19 Apr 1907 (Edinburgh area).Ada is shown as her niece. She has an address in Edinburgh so I presume she was living there.
Jemima`s mother was Catherine O`Bree, b abt 1810 Deptford, Kent. She married James Hope Johnston
(b 21 March 1817 in Edinburgh) but I cannot find the marriage details. It may have been a very early one in New Zealand as Jemima was born before the official records were kept there.
Isabel

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 4 Feb 2013 07:39

Hello Isabel and welcome to the boards.

It's been a little while since this query so you might want to send Sonya a message (click on her name).