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Godstone (Caterham) Missing Census 1901?

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Dorothy Report 6 Sep 2012 16:26

Please can anyone confirm that the Census for 1901 Caterham, Surrey (Godstone), was destroyed or lost...


Jonesey Report 6 Sep 2012 16:31

Nothing showing as a known problem with the 1901 census in fact there are some entries for people living there in 1901.


Name: Henry Smith
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Caterham, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Caterham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:


Condition as to marriage:


Employment status:

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Registration district: Godstone
Sub-registration district: Godstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Piece: 631
Folio: 95
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Watts 31
Eliza Watts 24
Ellen Watts 4
Henry Smith 45

Who are you trying find?


Dorothy Report 6 Sep 2012 17:32

Hi Jonesey, I have spent best part of 6 years looking for my Paternal Grandfather William John Laker and his spouse Elizabeth Ann nee Green on this particular joy apart from the 1911 Census..

The Children born before this time are Mary Ann Elizabeth Green 27th January 1896 ( daughter of Elizabeth Ann nee Green unknown father as per birth cert.) but later took the surname of Laker on the 1911 Census( all found on the 1911 Census living at 80, Commonwealth Road, Caterham, Surrey). born 5 Flint Cottages,London Road, Caterham, Surrey.

Elizabeth Fanny Laker 19th April 1899 3, Merstham Terrace, Coulsdon Road, Caterham, Surrey..have birth certificate

James Edward Laker have birth certificate 2nd March 1901 9, Purley Road, Croydon, Surrey, should be with Mother Elizabeth Ann nee Green/Laker and her parents Edward Green and Mary Ann nee Quittenton who found easily enough on the 1901 Census, no sign of them..James died in 17th February 1902.James is the only one I have a baptism for same as death date...have birth certificate.

All other siblings were born between 1903 - 1913, James was still listed on the 1911 Census, although confirmed by Death Cert. that he had died 17th February 1902 6, Clifford Road, Penge..

If you can double check the 1901 Census for me would be so grateful, another pair of eyes maybe will pick something up I missed...

thank you


MarieCeleste Report 6 Sep 2012 17:50

Hello Dorothy, when and where was William John Laker born, and what was his occupation? Same for his wife.


MarieCeleste Report 6 Sep 2012 17:54

Found them in 1911, posting to work from:

LAKER, William Head Married M 42 1869 General Labourer Shorham Sussex
LAKER, Elizabeth Wife Married16 years F 36 1875 Croydon Surrey
LAKER, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 15 1896 Caterham Surrey
LAKER, Elizabeth Fanny Daughter F 12 1899 School Caterham Surrey
LAKER, James Son M 10 1901 Croydon Surrey
LAKER, William Son M 8 1903 School Croydon Surrey
LAKER, Harritt Daughter F 5 1906 Caterham Surrey
LAKER, Edith Daughter F 3 1908 Caterham Surrey
LAKER, Alice Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Caterham Surrey

RG number: RG14 Piece: 3248
Reference: RG14PN3248 RG78PN123 RD38 SD1 ED5 SN439
Registration District: Godstone
Sub District: Godstone
Enumeration District: 5
Parish: Caterham

Address: 80 Commonwealth Road County: Surrey


MarieCeleste Report 6 Sep 2012 18:02

Not having any joy on FMP or Ancestry ....


Dorothy Report 6 Sep 2012 18:36

William John Laker aged 27 as per Marriage Cert. 29th May 1898 Labourer, Father William John Laker also..Seaman Deceased..

Elizabeth Ann Green Occupation Laundress.. although she states on the 1911 Census she was born in Croydon, this is where she was living at the time, have proof...Birth Cert. Baptism etc.,
Elizabeth was born Grass Lane, Ilkestone Cotmanhay, Derbyshire 12th December 1876 . Birth Registered 15th January 1877 Baptism 4th March 1877. Cotmanhay..

Married Bethany Hall, Croydon Road, Caterham, Surrey

William John Laker( junior) moved to Caterham sometime between 1891 - 1896 as per Godstone Poor Law Records 1906 10th January copied and saved at The Surrey History Centre for my Records.. How long at this address 10 Years..Hazel Cottages, 5 Beechwood Road, Caterham, Surrey..

thank you for your time MarieCeleste...



Dorothy Report 7 Sep 2012 18:14

thank you to all who have given their time, back to researching again, and double checking all Certificates etc., hoping to visit the Surrey History Centre again in October and look through records for the Caterham Valley Primary School, might just find something there...


Deborah Report 10 Nov 2012 21:43

That's really interesting as I've always wondered how my husband's family ( Nash, Godstone) had all gone missing in 1901. Perhaps part of the Caterham census is missing? They were also in Beechwood Rd.


JustDinosaurJill Report 10 Nov 2012 22:13

Just an idea but is there another place in the country which is spelled or sounds simila? We know that so many mistakes have occurred due to unfamiliarity with UK places. It could have been transcribed but the info 'located' somewhere totally different.

I know that in theory you should still be able to find them via a name search, but if you are only looking at a particular area, it might be worthwhile checking other name results.

Another idea is that maybe a page, or pages were never transcribed. Missed or not there to be transcribed in the first place?

Hope you both find your families.



Vicci Report 11 Nov 2012 01:50

beechwood road on 1901 census
RG13 piece 631 folio 103 pages 41 to 44

but no sign of any Lakers


Vicci Report 11 Nov 2012 02:20

Nash on Beechwood ROad 1901
NASH, David A Head Married M 32 1869 Coachman Domestic
Canterbury, Kent VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]
NASH, Elizabeth D A Wife Married F 37 1864
Canterbury, Kent VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]
NASH, Edward J W Son M 6 1895
Caterham, Surrey VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]
NASH, Arthur A H Son M 3 1898
Caterham, Surrey VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]
HIGHWOOD, Alfred Boarder Single M 20 1881 Railway Porter
Canterbury, Kent VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]
ARMAN, Mable Visitor Single F 22 1879
N K, Wiltshire VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]

Piece: 631

Folio: 103

Page: 43

Registration District: Godstone

Civil Parish: Caterham

Municipal Borough:

Address: Beechwood Road, Caterham

County: Surrey


AnotherCanuck Report 11 Nov 2012 19:42

I too double checked Caterham Surrey Census for 1901 via ancestry....
Found Nash family re Beechwood Rd Caterham Valley, along with
my both my paternal g/parents with their families, but no sign of Laker

There are 2 parts re Caterham, Caterham Valley & Caterham On The Hill.
This I checked, as I noticed the first 2 births taking place at Coulsdon Rd & London Rd, which are both located on Caterham Hill...Again no sign of Laker family re 1901.

Wishing you the very best in your search Dorothy.

A/Canuck :-)


Dorothy Report 13 Nov 2012 17:08

Sorry haven't replied sooner..Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to reply here..

A/Canuck yes these were the Births of Mary Ann Elizabeth Green 1896, daughter of Elizabeth father unknown, but later took the Surname of Laker..and also Elizabeth Fanny Laker 1899..this is truly a mystery, I'll keep researching and hopefully something will turn up eventually...