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Dorothy
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6 Sep 2012 16:26 |
Please can anyone confirm that the Census for 1901 Caterham, Surrey (Godstone), was destroyed or lost...
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Jonesey
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6 Sep 2012 16:31 |
Nothing showing as a known problem with the 1901 census in fact there are some entries for people living there in 1901.
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1901: Name: Henry Smith Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Caterham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Caterham Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Godstone Sub-registration district: Godstone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 180 Piece: 631 Folio: 95 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age John Watts 31 Eliza Watts 24 Ellen Watts 4 Henry Smith 45
Who are you trying find?
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Dorothy
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6 Sep 2012 17:32 |
Hi Jonesey, I have spent best part of 6 years looking for my Paternal Grandfather William John Laker and his spouse Elizabeth Ann nee Green on this particular Census..no joy apart from the 1911 Census..
The Children born before this time are Mary Ann Elizabeth Green 27th January 1896 ( daughter of Elizabeth Ann nee Green unknown father as per birth cert.) but later took the surname of Laker on the 1911 Census( all found on the 1911 Census living at 80, Commonwealth Road, Caterham, Surrey). born 5 Flint Cottages,London Road, Caterham, Surrey.
Elizabeth Fanny Laker 19th April 1899 3, Merstham Terrace, Coulsdon Road, Caterham, Surrey..have birth certificate
James Edward Laker have birth certificate 2nd March 1901 9, Purley Road, Croydon, Surrey, should be with Mother Elizabeth Ann nee Green/Laker and her parents Edward Green and Mary Ann nee Quittenton who found easily enough on the 1901 Census, no sign of them..James died in 17th February 1902.James is the only one I have a baptism for same as death date...have birth certificate.
All other siblings were born between 1903 - 1913, James was still listed on the 1911 Census, although confirmed by Death Cert. that he had died 17th February 1902 6, Clifford Road, Penge..
If you can double check the 1901 Census for me would be so grateful, another pair of eyes maybe will pick something up I missed...
thank you
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MarieCeleste
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6 Sep 2012 17:50 |
Hello Dorothy, when and where was William John Laker born, and what was his occupation? Same for his wife.
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MarieCeleste
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6 Sep 2012 17:54 |
Found them in 1911, posting to work from:
LAKER, William Head Married M 42 1869 General Labourer Shorham Sussex LAKER, Elizabeth Wife Married16 years F 36 1875 Croydon Surrey LAKER, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 15 1896 Caterham Surrey LAKER, Elizabeth Fanny Daughter F 12 1899 School Caterham Surrey LAKER, James Son M 10 1901 Croydon Surrey LAKER, William Son M 8 1903 School Croydon Surrey LAKER, Harritt Daughter F 5 1906 Caterham Surrey LAKER, Edith Daughter F 3 1908 Caterham Surrey LAKER, Alice Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Caterham Surrey
RG number: RG14 Piece: 3248 Reference: RG14PN3248 RG78PN123 RD38 SD1 ED5 SN439 Registration District: Godstone Sub District: Godstone Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Caterham
Address: 80 Commonwealth Road County: Surrey
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MarieCeleste
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6 Sep 2012 18:02 |
Not having any joy on FMP or Ancestry ....
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Dorothy
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6 Sep 2012 18:36 |
William John Laker aged 27 as per Marriage Cert. 29th May 1898 Labourer, Father William John Laker also..Seaman Deceased..
Elizabeth Ann Green Occupation Laundress.. although she states on the 1911 Census she was born in Croydon, this is where she was living at the time, have proof...Birth Cert. Baptism etc., Elizabeth was born Grass Lane, Ilkestone Cotmanhay, Derbyshire 12th December 1876 . Birth Registered 15th January 1877 Baptism 4th March 1877. Cotmanhay..
Married Bethany Hall, Croydon Road, Caterham, Surrey
William John Laker( junior) moved to Caterham sometime between 1891 - 1896 as per Godstone Poor Law Records 1906 10th January copied and saved at The Surrey History Centre for my Records.. How long at this address 10 Years..Hazel Cottages, 5 Beechwood Road, Caterham, Surrey..
thank you for your time MarieCeleste...
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Dorothy
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7 Sep 2012 18:14 |
thank you to all who have given their time, back to researching again, and double checking all Certificates etc., hoping to visit the Surrey History Centre again in October and look through records for the Caterham Valley Primary School, might just find something there...
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Deborah
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10 Nov 2012 21:43 |
That's really interesting as I've always wondered how my husband's family ( Nash, Godstone) had all gone missing in 1901. Perhaps part of the Caterham census is missing? They were also in Beechwood Rd.
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JustDinosaurJill
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10 Nov 2012 22:13 |
Just an idea but is there another place in the country which is spelled or sounds simila? We know that so many mistakes have occurred due to unfamiliarity with UK places. It could have been transcribed but the info 'located' somewhere totally different.
I know that in theory you should still be able to find them via a name search, but if you are only looking at a particular area, it might be worthwhile checking other name results.
Another idea is that maybe a page, or pages were never transcribed. Missed or not there to be transcribed in the first place?
Hope you both find your families.
Jill
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Vicci
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11 Nov 2012 01:50 |
beechwood road on 1901 census RG13 piece 631 folio 103 pages 41 to 44
but no sign of any Lakers
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Vicci
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11 Nov 2012 02:20 |
Nash on Beechwood ROad 1901 NASH, David A Head Married M 32 1869 Coachman Domestic Canterbury, Kent VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed] NASH, Elizabeth D A Wife Married F 37 1864 Canterbury, Kent VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed] NASH, Edward J W Son M 6 1895 Caterham, Surrey VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed] NASH, Arthur A H Son M 3 1898 Caterham, Surrey VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed] HIGHWOOD, Alfred Boarder Single M 20 1881 Railway Porter Canterbury, Kent VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed] ARMAN, Mable Visitor Single F 22 1879 N K, Wiltshire VIEW [You have viewed this record before - click the My saved records tab at the top of the page for a list of all the records you have viewed]
Piece: 631
Folio: 103
Page: 43
Registration District: Godstone
Civil Parish: Caterham
Municipal Borough:
Address: Beechwood Road, Caterham
County: Surrey
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AnotherCanuck
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11 Nov 2012 19:42 |
I too double checked Caterham Surrey Census for 1901 via ancestry.... Found Nash family re Beechwood Rd Caterham Valley, along with my both my paternal g/parents with their families, but no sign of Laker family....
There are 2 parts re Caterham, Caterham Valley & Caterham On The Hill. This I checked, as I noticed the first 2 births taking place at Coulsdon Rd & London Rd, which are both located on Caterham Hill...Again no sign of Laker family re 1901.
Wishing you the very best in your search Dorothy.
K/Regards, A/Canuck :-)
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Dorothy
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13 Nov 2012 17:08 |
Sorry haven't replied sooner..Thank you to everyone who has taken the time and trouble to reply here..
A/Canuck yes these were the Births of Mary Ann Elizabeth Green 1896, daughter of Elizabeth father unknown, but later took the Surname of Laker..and also Elizabeth Fanny Laker 1899..this is truly a mystery, I'll keep researching and hopefully something will turn up eventually...
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