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I am looking for the death of Grace Prosser nee Thomas whom I believe may have died between 1904-1908. I think she died in India or Eire/Ireland because I can't find her in the UK.

Grace Thomas was born 1875 in Bregdar, Kent and she married a soldier Walter Ambrose Christmas Prosser (Lancashire Fusilier) in 1901 Stockbury, Kent after the 1901 census. Walter's residence was listed as St Mark's Portmouth (possible Military Barracks) can't find this place.

They had 3 daugthers 1902 Beatrice Mary born in Portsmouth
1903 Eva Frances born in Bury!
1904 Ivy Grace born Hollingbourne, Kent

Story goes Grace died (place unknown) and Walter married a nurse/midwife, Jane Hefernen from Tipperary Ireland. I can not find this marriage either.

Walter had a two further daughters in 1908 Briget M born Chakrata and 1910 Miriam in Multan both in India.

Walter died in1911 on board HMHS REWA aged 36 from Pnenmonia.

All the girls travelled back from India on HMS Dongola, and the story goes Jane placed Grace and Walter's daughters into a orphanage in County Cork. But I have found Jane and the 5 girls living with her sister Bridget Dempsey and children at 55 Bracklone Street, Portlarlington South, Queen's Co. But she claim's to have been married 13 years!

Can anyone help, many thanks.

Walter joined the Lancashire Fusiliers 21.10.1892 service no. 7618? But since his birth in 1874 St Saviour, Walworth, I have not been able to find him on any census, why? The closest one is 1891 in London as a Blacksmith? But aged listed as 20 but he would have been 16/17. Walter comes from a family of Artist/Printer from Camberwell/Guildford, stuff in the City of London Library.

Thank you for read my equiry/requests and your time.

Cheers Tracey.

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958
about Grace Prosser
Name: Grace Prosser
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1905
Death Age: 31
Registration district: Tipperary
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 3
Page: 394
FHL Film Number: 101602

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Walter Prosser
Name: Walter Prosser
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1907
Registration district: Tullamore
Volume: 3
Page: 450 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101261

Jane Hefernen

Residents of a house 55 in Bracklone Street (Portarlington South, Queen's Co.)

Years Married Children Born Children Living
Dempsey Bridget 25 Female Head of Family Roman Catholic Kings Co House Keeper Read and write - Married - 3 3 3
Dempsey Annie 3 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Dempsey Hubert 2 Male Son Roman Catholic Kings Co - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Dempsey John J Male Son Roman Catholic Queens Co - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Prosser Jane 38 Female Sister Roman Catholic Kings Co House Keeper Read and write - Married - 13 5 5
Prosser Mary 8 Female Niece Roman Catholic England Scholar Read only - Single - - - -
Prosser Eva 7 Female Niece Roman Catholic England - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Prosser Ivey G 6 Female Niece Roman Catholic England - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Prosser Bridget M 3 Female Niece Roman Catholic India - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Prosser Marrian 1 Female Niece Roman Catholic

1891 England Census
Name:Walter A C Proper [Walter Ambrose Christmas Prosser]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Surrey, England
Civil parish: St Saviours
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviours
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Saviour Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 342
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20

I've not inclused who else was living with them as there are LOADS - not his parents but lots of unrelated people. He is a Waiter at the Bridge House Hotel.

1881 England Census
Name: Walter A. C. Prossen [Walter Ambrose Christmas Prosser]
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Albert Prossen
Mother's Name: Marion Prossen
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Newington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Queens Row East Side
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: St Peter Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 547
Folio: 3
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Albert Prossen 40
Marion Prossen 38
Emily A. B. Prossen 17
George A. F. Prossen 14
Edwin A. Prossen 11
Walter A. C. Prossen 7
Albert E. Prossen 1
Jemima Bradley 63

There is a London Baptism on for Walter:

Name: Walter Ambrose Christmas Prosser
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date:abt 1874
Baptism Date: 28 Oct 1874
Father's Name: Albert Prosser
Mother's Name: Marian Prosser
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lorrimore Square St Paul
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

This confirms that the 1881 census is definitely for him.

I wonder if the children ended up back in England?


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Eva F Prosser
Name: Eva F Prosser
Spouse Surname: William Holden
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1931
Registration district: Westhampnett
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume Number: 2b
Page Number: 955

Looks like the reason he didn't know up in your searches for the census was because they were mis-transcribed. I can't find him on 1901 but that's possibly because he was abroad or on ship?

EDIT - Just to let you know that someone has Walter in their tree on Ancestry along with some pictures of his daughter Ivy - the tree is called Christopher Leland Cobb's Family Tree

Marriages Sep 1937
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NORKETT John F Prosser Maidenhead 2c 1478
Prosser Ivy G Norkett Maidenhead 2c 1478



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Ivy Grace Norkett
Name: Ivy Grace Norkett
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1904
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1979
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Newbury
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 19
Page: 0111



I'll wait for you to come as you probably have everything except the Irish death for Grace!

Many thanks to Sarah and Gins for all your sterling help, been looking for Walter's 2nd marriage and Grace's death for years. Ivy, Beatrice(Mary) and Eva all returned to the uk. My nan Ivy went to London and at some stage was rumoured to board with Patience Strong.

Many thanks again.

Tracey

Elec Rolls for London show an Ivy Grace Prosser in 1930 living at The Vicarage on Station Road in West Drayton along with Kate Prout and Leslie Ernest Prout (presumably the Vicar).