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ELSIE MAY BAINBRIDGE & ARTHUR ROBERT BAINBRIDGE

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GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 16 Oct 2012 11:01

ELSIE MAY & ARTHUR ROBERT children of Robert Rutter & Emma Jane Bainbridge of 2 Coningsby Terrace Tarring Rd worthing in 1901
both children died in 1899 ElsieMay age 7 Arthur Robert age 2 both deaths registered @ East Preston Sussex . I am having difficulty finding birth records , I am convinced that they were both born in Worthing /Hove area Robert Rutter & Emma lived in Aldrington Hove in 1895 Daughter lillian was born there but Son Albert Stephen born 1899 in Worthing Emma Jane bainbridge Nee Bacon must have had a terrible year in 1899

safc

safc Report 16 Oct 2012 11:06

????

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Baimbridge Arthur Robert Hendon 3a 202

safc

safc Report 16 Oct 2012 11:10

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Baimbridge Elsie May E. Preston 2b 358

safc

safc Report 16 Oct 2012 11:21

Marriages Jun 1891 (>99%)
Bacon Emma Jane E. Preston. 2b 643
Bainbridge Robert Ruter P E. Preston 2b 643

Margee

Margee Report 16 Oct 2012 14:12

This looks like the family but mother's name is Jennie:

1901 England Census
about Albert Stephen Bainbridge Name: Albert Stephen Bainbridge
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Bainbridge
Mother's Name: Jennie Bainbridge
Gender: Male
Where born: Worthing, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Worthing
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Worthing
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: East Preston
Sub-registration district: Worthing
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 959
Folio: 131
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Bainbridge 53 , born Newcastle-on-Tyne
Jennie Bainbridge 33 , born Sussex, Worthing
Rose Lilian Bainbridge 5 , born Sussex, Brighton
Albert Stephen Bainbridge 1 , born Worthing



Margee

Margee Report 16 Oct 2012 14:21

Emma and 2 sons in 1911. Says she's married but no husband with her. She's been married 19 years, 5 children, 3 still living.

1911 England Census
about Albert Bainbridge Name: Albert Bainbridge
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Worthing, Sussex
Civil parish: Worthing
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Tarring Road Worthing
Occupation: school
Registration district: East Preston
Registration District Number: 84
Sub-registration district: Worthing
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 272
Piece: 5331
Household Members: Name Age
Emma J Bainbridge 43
Albert Bainbridge 11
Robert M Bainbridge 7
Ada L Roake Lucas 54
Rose B Smith 44

Ada & Rose are lodgers.


GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 16 Oct 2012 17:37

Hi yes you have the right family apparently Robert Rutter almost always called Emma Jane his Jennie Robert was a blacksmith they married june 1891 so going by her death cert Elsie May was probably their first child she died 26th May 1899 aged 7 yrs second child would have been Lillian Rose born 27 May1895 @ 11 Lion Mews Aldrington Hove Sussex birth registered Steyning
Arthur Robert died 3rd August 1899 aged 2 yrs address on death cert is 62 Becket road West Worthing
Albert Stephen my Father was born 17th September 1899 also @62 Becket Road
Robert Matthew born 1904 was born at 2 Coningsby Terrace Tarring Road West Worthing
So far i have not been able to find birth certs for Elsie or Arthur that match date & timeline and am having same prob with Robert Rutter's death cert

Margee

Margee Report 16 Oct 2012 18:26

But didn't safc post the births of Elsie & Arthur?

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 25 May 2013 18:58

Hello Margee thanks to your help with search I have now received copy of birth cert for Elsie May Bainbridge & the information gained has solved another query ie, Were there 2 Robert Rutter Bainbridge's or one I am now convinced that there was just one.born to Matthew & Jane Bainbridge 1861. 1881 recorded apprentice blacksmith with Mr Brown @Cleadon age 19 . Married Alice Isabella { bell } Nicholson Sunderland parish church April 3rd1882 both parties made their Mark on register X implying illiteracy . Alice gave birth to their son Robert Rutter Bainbridge on 13th May 1883 @ 56 Rothsay St Monkwearmouth Sunderland .
I believe that Alice died in 1889 in Thirsk of pneumonia and that Robert left their son with Mr & Mrs Nicholson & moved south to London & Sussex where he met and married Emma Jane Bacon @Broadwater parish church Worthing June 21st1891 still occupation Blacksmith but states marital state as Bachelor & his father as vetinary surgeon . He also seems to now be able to sign his signature as Robert Rutter Parker Weddle Bainbridge Blacksmith & Journeyman Emma & he had 5 children of which 3 survived and married Robert vanished again sometime after 1904 leaving Emma to raise three children she sadly passed away in 1950 still living in same house for 50 yrs her death cert states Widow of Robert Rutter Bainbridge a blacksmith only record of death I can find is Robert Bainbridge death in Kingston 1936 widow Emily I now have to find out if it's same Robert & did he marry Emily while still married to Emma ??? bit of a SAGA

Reggie

Reggie Report 25 May 2013 19:37

Well, that's progress...................I seem to recall trying in vain to convince you there was only one man with the name.


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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1307566

GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 5 Jun 2013 10:24

thanks for all your help Reggie I am now trying to look up Baptism of Robert as birth cert is only Robert Rutter but he later seems to acquire more fore names