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Oh thanks for that Ann, well information is definitely interesting and I think I will have to rule it out -so try and find the US James Samways marrying a Harriett in UK in 1880? if possible. And find the children if born in uk?

Alice Mary Prince

Had Florence Amy Samways 1884
Ernest Edward 1886
and Archibald James Samways 1888

married 1884 Litchfield Church, Hampshire

no sign of him in Australia by the way

difficult one to call

Sorry just seen the US records -bit confusing, do you think these three are all the same people? I see only gives England nothing more.

who did he marry in the UK?

Thank you Ann, that is the two cenus records I can find in UK , after this he disappears -however his last child was born 1888 and I have photographic evidence of him in family photo with wife and three children and youngest is approx 6-12 months.

James Samways
United States Census, 1930
birth: 1858 England
immigration: 1885
census: 1930 Modesto,? Stanislaus,? California


name: James Samways
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Modesto, Stanislaus, California
gender: Male
age: 72
marital status: Widowed
race: White
birthplace: England
estimated birth year: 1858
immigration year: 1885
relationship to head of household: Father-in-law
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: England
enumeration district number: 0019
family number: 380
sheet number and letter: 26A
line number: 31
nara publication: T626, roll 223
digital folder number: 4532370

James W Samways
United States Census, 1920
birth: 1858 England
residence: 1920 ,? Douglas,? Wisconsin


name: James W Samways
residence: , Douglas, Wisconsin
estimated birth year: 1858
age: 62
birthplace: England
relationship to head of household: Self
gender: Male
race: White
marital status: Single
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: Canada
digital folder number: 4391500
sheet number: 30

James Samways
United States Census, 1910
birth: 1858 England
residence: 1910 Superior Ward 9,? Douglas,? Wisconsin
children: Harry Samways,? Walter Samways


name: James Samways
birthplace: England
relationship to head of household: Self
residence: Superior Ward 9, Douglas, Wisconsin
marital status: Widowed
race : White
gender: Male
immigration year: 1887
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: England
family number: 159
page number: 9

James Samways
United States Census, 1900
birth: Feb 1856 England
residence: 1900 ED 78 Superior city Ward 9,? Douglas,? Wisconsin,? United States
spouse: Harriett Samways
children: Alfred J Samways,? Frederick Samways...


name: James Samways
event: Census
event date: 1900
event place: ED 78 Superior city Ward 9, Douglas, Wisconsin, United States
birth date: Feb 1856
birthplace: England
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: England
race or color (standardized): White
gender: Male
marital status: Married
years married: 20
estimated marriage year: 1880
immigration year: 1885
page: 28
sheet letter: B
family number: 542

James Samways
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1859 Ovington,? Hampshire
census: 1861 Avington,? Hampshire,? England


name: James Samways
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 2
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Ovington, Hampshire
record type: Household
registration district: Winchester
sub-district: 2 The Worthys
civil parish: Avington
county: Hampshire

James Samways
England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1859 Avington,? Hampshire,? England
census: 1881 Litchfield,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Mary Samways


name: James Samways
age: 22
gender: Male
birth year: 1859
birthplace: Avington, Hampshire, England
relationship to head of household: Son
marital condition: Single
profession/occupation: Ag Lab Farm Foreman (Bailiff)
address: Down Farm
census place: Litchfield, Hampshire, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341308
the national archives reference: RG11
piece/folio: 1265 / 12
page number: 17

James Samways
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1859 Ovington,? Hampshire
residence: 1871 Steventon,? Steventon,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Job Samways,? Mary Samways


name: James Samways
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 12
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Ovington, Hampshire
record type: Household
registration district: Basingstoke
sub-district: Dummer
event parish: Steventon
county: Hampshire

Has anybody got access to US census and would you please be prepared to look up record. I have been searching for my James Samways born 1858 Avington, Hampshire and disappears in UK records before 1891 CENUS (His wife and children are with her parents) and never to be found again here. Family rumour was he left for australia with another woman. But I have found records in US cenus which look interesting and deserve a further look.

Their is a passenger list saying a James Samways left Galway for Boston in 1891 -which is around the correct time but his age is given as 21 years which is many years out. However in 1910 cenus there is a James Samways saying born around 1858 in Douglas, again a James W Samways in 1920 Douglas and James Samways in 1930, California. Could this be my James Samways??

Could you help

Thanks for everybodys efforts