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Hannah Voase b1819 Who is she ?.

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Jeffrey

Jeffrey Report 14 Nov 2012 20:11

John Voase 30 married Hannah Seaton 21, 8th Dec 1795 by licence at Aughton (Yorks) Hannah described as being of Aughton but now at Newburnholme (Yorks). Seven children between 1796 and 1813 baptised Aughton.
2nd May 1819 Hannah Voase has Hannah Voase baptised at Aughton, child shown in parish register as illegitimate.
John Voase buried 19-9-1843, aged 80.
21 Dec 1840 Hannah Voase age 22 marries Joseph Lazenby at Aughton father's name shown on marriage cert as John Voase.
So is the Hannah who married 21-12-1840 the same person who was registered illegitimate on 2-5-1819 or are there two Hannahs,and why would a child of Hannah Voase (Snr) be described as Illegitimate when her husband was still alive.or was Hannah trying to register the child as her own when the priest knew this was not the case.? Can anyone help please I'm getting nowhere. Regards Jeff Ward. P.S. I can't find out who the parents of Hannah Seaton are either!!.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Nov 2012 20:57

assuming that there are no other Hannah Voase's living in the village .....................


then it is possible that Hannah had committed adultery, and either John knew and refused to acknowledge the child as his OR the vicar knew the situation and refused to put John as the father.


Were any more children born to John and Hannah after the birth of the "illegitimate" Hannah??





sylvia

Derek

Derek Report 14 Nov 2012 21:41

Hannah born 1774........has an illegitimate child at the age of 45 ???..after already bearing seven children..bit long in the tooth to be playing around in the early 19th century ????????

Just a thought.

Derek.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 Nov 2012 22:44

The one who married in 1840 may well have been the illegitimate one born 1819, but I would seriously doubt that Hannah married to John was her mother

The fact that she named a 'father' when she married doesn't mean that he was known to her

Quoy

Quoy Report 15 Nov 2012 07:59

Could the Hannah born 1819 be a child of one of Hannah and John's children

so grandparents adopting grandchild as happened in my husbands family

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Nov 2012 08:36

A very plausible scenario......and possibly the most obvious. Perhaps when Jeffrey returns, he will tell us if one of their daughters was named Hannah.........

Not necessarily having been 'adopted' but simply naming grandfather as 'father' on marriage cert

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Nov 2012 08:44

No Hannah among those on the IGI..........but their list isn't complete

Charls Voase
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 1811 AUGHTON NEAR SELBY,?YORK,?ENGLAND
parents: Jo Voase,? Hanna Voase
The following results don't strongly match what you searched for, but may be of interest.
Rebecca Voase
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 26 Apr 1804 AUGHTON NEAR SELBY,?YORK,?ENGLAND
parents: John Voase
Thomas Voase
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 Jun 1798 AUGHTON NEAR SELBY,?YORK,?ENGLAND
parents: John Voase
John Voase
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 Aug 1806 AUGHTON NEAR SELBY,?YORK,?ENGLAND
parents: John Voase

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Nov 2012 08:50

County East Riding YKS
Place Aughton
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 10 Dec 1795
GroomForename John
GroomSurname VOASE
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Hannah
BrideSurname SEATON
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Richard
WitnessOneSurname ALLAN
WitnessTwoForename Wm
WitnessTwoSurname BROWN
Notes Lic.
FileNumber 22616

(from below link, but not seeing 1819 Baptism, a Charles 1811)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

County East Riding YKS
Place Aughton
Church All Saints
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate * * 1811
Forename Charls
Sex M
FatherForename Jo
MotherForename Hanna
FatherSurname VOASE
MotherSurname
Abode Layth.
FatherOccupation
FileNumber 22615

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Nov 2012 08:53

From the IGI................

name: Hannah Voase
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 May 1819
baptism/christening place: AUGHTON NEAR SELBY,YORK,ENGLAND

father's name:
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Hannah Voase

indexing project (batch) number: C01085-2
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 919385

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Nov 2012 09:08

Burial ?
1813 Hannah, wife of John Voace, Laytham

(from google search of John Voase Hannah Seaton)

Chris :)

edits (have you checked 'Search All Trees' (under 'Search', top right of page) 3 other Members share Hannah 1819)

Jeffrey

Jeffrey Report 15 Nov 2012 17:52

Thanks everyone for your help and advice. The seven children were Mary 1796, Thomas 1798, William 1799, Rebecca 1804, John 1806, Charles 1811, Elizabeth 1813. Not a Hannah in sight. It had occurred to me she might have been trying to pass someone elses child off as her own. As Derek says she was pretty well past child bearing age.
I'm reasonably satisfied the girl baptised 1819 is the one who married in 1840. As to her father's name it could well have been her grandfather's. A little white lie to save face.
I've only just picked up on the burial of Hannah on 3-10-1813,so that finishes the argument that she may have been connected to John and Hannah who married 1795.
However what bothers me is that the parish baptismal record for Aughton ( and I've seen the original) states Hannah Voase daughter of Hannah Voase of Laytham. Now Laytham is a very small place without a church- they used Aughton- so who was the mother?. Clutching at straws I'm starting to wonder if John Voace had taken a mistress after the death of his wife !!!! Thanks again Regards Jeff Ward.