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susannah lisle/lyall/coke/cook

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MarieCeleste Report 16 Nov 2012 21:51

Shirley, you said the 1901 showed Fred James with a half brother and sister - there was another child:

PICKLES, Louisa Head Widow F 36 1865 Charwoman Plymouth, Devonshire
PICKLES, Fred J Coke Son Single M 9 1892 Clitheroe, Lancashire
PICKLES, John Son Single M 7 1894 Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
PICKLES, Florrie Daughter F 3 1898 Barnoldswick, Yorkshire
PICKLES, Edmondson Son M 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Barnoldswick, Yorkshire

Piece: 4028 Folio: 73 Page: 7
Registration District: Skipton
Civil Parish: Barnoldswick

Address: Clough Fold, Barnoldswick County: Yorkshire (West riding)


MarieCeleste Report 16 Nov 2012 22:00

I think Louisa's first husband's name was actually Edmondson:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Edmondson Pickles
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1900
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 28

(There's also his first marriage in that name)


MarieCeleste Report 16 Nov 2012 22:03

Baptism of three of Louisa's children:

Name Baptism Date Parish Parent Names
John Pickles 1 Oct 1893 Barnoldswick Edmondson, Louisa
Florrie Pickles 27 Jun 1897 Barnoldswick Edmondson, Louisa
Louis Pickles 21 May 1899 Barnoldswick Edmondson, Louisa

Louis sadly died:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Louie Pickles
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1899
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Skipton
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 25


MarieCeleste Report 16 Nov 2012 22:22

FindMyPast transcribes James Frederick's name as Cook in 1911, and that is definitely what it was written as on the original form (form completed by John Pickles).

MCGARRAGIN, John Head Married M 52 1859 Labourer Outdoor Manchester Lancs
MCGARRAGIN, Louisa Wife Married7 years F 45 1866 Plymouth Devonshire
COOK, James Frederick Step-Son Single M 20 1891 Weaver Cotton Clitheroe Lancashire
PICKLES, John Step-Son Single M 18 1893 Twister In A Cotton Barnoldswick Yorkshire
PICKLES, Florrie Step-Daughter F 14 1897 At School Barnoldswick Yorkshire
PICKLES, Edmondson Step-Son M 10 1901 Barnoldswick Yorkshire
MCGARRAGIN, Thomas Son M 6 1905 Barnoldswick Yorkshire
MCGARRAGIN, John Son M 4 1907 Barnoldswick Yorkshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 25772
Reference: RG14PN25772 RG78PN1484 RD485 SD3 ED14 SN269
Registration District: Skipton
Sub District: Barnoldswick
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Barnoldswick

Address: 8 Stuart Street Barnoldswick County: Yorkshire (West riding)


Shirley Report 18 Nov 2012 17:00

Hi agasin
So are we assuming then that louisa, william henry and charles have the same father after all. ?? is that a possibility anyway? I have not managed to find a death for this william coke, cook man. But they could be calling him one of three names so maybe thats why. We know he was dead before 1892 anyway. Very confusing. I just think that all this name changing even between lines on a certificate confuses things.
thanks again.
i have a lot of new info to give to the cooks when i see them next week now, they will be overjoyed. :-)


MarieCeleste Report 18 Nov 2012 17:32

Shirley, it certainly seems that they had the same dad.