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Hugh Wesley Jones, b. 1878 Brynmawr, Brecon

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Katie

Katie Report 21 Nov 2012 11:50

Hugh Wesley Jones, b. 1878 Brynmawr, Brecon

was born to Thomas Jones & Sarah Watkins - this is them in 1881

1881 - 3, Chapel St, Llanelly
JONES, Thomas Head Married M 28 1853 Stone Mason
Cwmdu, Brecknockshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Sarah Wife Married F 26 1855
Brynmawr, Brecknockshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Hugh W Son Single M 3 1878
Brynmawr, Brecknockshire, Wales

I can't find any of them in the 1891 or 1900 censuses - can you help?

I know he married 11 Aug 1902 to Georgina Presdee at Bethsada Chapel Brynmawr

and was a coal miner.

Many thanks,

Katie

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Nov 2012 12:36

1891 have you looked at the family called FONG

Think it might be Long. Could suggest that mother Sarah has remarried


??
Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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DOWN Bessie Crickhowell 11b 249
HAINES Isaac Crickhowell 11b 249
JONES Sarah Crickhowell 11b 249
Long William Crickhowell 11b 249



1891
Name: William Fong
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Fong
Gender: Male
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Cwmtillery
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub-registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4354
Folio: 17
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
William Fong 36 Somerset
Sarah Fong 36 Breconshire
Mary Jane Fong 17 Breconshire
Hugh Wesley Fong 12
Elizabeth Ann Fong 3
Edward Thomas Fong 1

Class: RG12; Piece: 4354; Folio: 17; Page: 41; GSU roll: 6099464.

Gins

Gins Report 21 Nov 2012 12:44

1901 Wales Census
about Hugh W Thomas
Name: Hugh W Thomas
Age in 1901: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales

Civil parish: Brynmawr
Ecclesiastical parish: Brynmawr St Mary
Town: Brynmawr
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Crickhowell
Sub-registration district: Llanelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Piece: 5174
Folio: 41
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Thomas 31
Mary A Thomas 49
Hannah E Thomas 18
Sarah J Thomas 16
Ambros J Thomas 13
Ethel M Thomas 8
Hugh W Thomas 22
Maggie Davies 24
David Thomas 67

He's a boarder but has been given the same name as the family...wonder if this was a mistake at the time the census was taken?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Nov 2012 12:47

1881 in case it is relevant

Name: Mary J. Jones
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales

Civil parish: Llanelly
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: 7 Worcester St East
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Crickhowell
Sub-registration district: Llanelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5465
Folio: 68
Page Number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
William Jones 45
Rachel Jones 46
John Jones 15
Mary J. Jones 7
John Hunt 32
John Jones 68

Class: RG11; Piece: 5465; Folio: 68; Page: 20; GSU roll: 1342314.

Katie

Katie Report 21 Nov 2012 13:08

Thank you very much!
You were correct with the Long's as the elder sister was living with the grandparents the census earlier .

Barry

Barry Report 21 Nov 2012 14:08

In the 1891 census Hugh is with his grandfather Thomas Watkins b 1821 Merthyr

It has him aged 2 but it should be 12 - when looks at the image there is one of those check ticks going through the "1" and the transcriber has missed it . It states he is a Scholar,so must be of school age

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Nov 2012 14:35

Georgina Presdee
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1879 Brynmawr,? Brecknockshire
census: 31 Mar 1901 Brynmawr,? Brecknockshire,? Wales


name: Georgina Presdee
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 22
relationship to head of household: Servant
birthplace: Brynmawr, Brecknockshire
record type: Household
registration district: Crickhowell
sub-district: Llanelly
ecclesiastical parish: Brynmawr St Marys
civil parish: Brynmawr
county: Brecknockshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Nov 2012 14:37

Georgina Jones
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Brynmawr,? Brecknockshire
census: 1911 Brynmawr,? Brynmawr,? Brecknockshire,? Wales


name: Georgina Jones
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 30
birthplace: Brynmawr, Brecknockshire
record type: Household
registration district: Crickhowell
sub-district: Llanelly
parish: Brynmawr
county: Brecknockshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Nov 2012 14:39

possible child?????

Ivor Geoge Jones
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Brynmawr,? Brecknockshire
census: 1911 Brynmawr,? Brynmawr,? Brecknockshire,? Wales


name: Ivor Geoge Jones
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 4
birthplace: Brynmawr, Brecknockshire
record type: Household
registration district: Crickhowell
sub-district: Llanelly
parish: Brynmawr
county: Brecknockshire

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 21 Nov 2012 15:46

Still around in 1916/7
Births Jun 1917 (>99%)

Jones Hugh W Presdee Crickhowell 11b 152
Name: Hugh Wesley Jones
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1917
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1980
Age at Death: 63
Registration district: Brecknock
Inferred County: Powys
Volume: 26
Page: 0059

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 21 Nov 2012 15:55

Maybe this one?
1901 England Census about Hugh Jones
Name: Hugh Jones
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Gender: Male
Where born: Bricond, Breconshire, Wales
Civil parish: Preston
Ecclesiastical parish: Preston St Peter
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Steyning
Sub-registration district: Shoreham
ED, institution, or vessel: Preston Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 946
Folio: 25
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hellen 36
Mary A Hellen 40
Joseph Jones 19
Hugh Jones 21 <=======
Elizah Jones 20
Edward Johnson 22
John Jennings 19
George E Jone 19
George Jordan 39
Cyril Hayes 21
Frank Walter Kerridge 19
Julius Karst 19
John Larman 19
Edward M Lodge 19
Samuel N Meridith 30
George Moffatt 37
Rachel Moffatt 36
Edward E Muffett 18
Frederick A Mills 18
Samuel Mells 19
John Patrick Moyna 37
Frank Marlow 19
Peter Marton 23
Joseph McCormack 21
Arthur H Mills 22
James Moon 19
John Mors 21
Henry Nunn 29
Harriet E Nunn 31
Gladys M Nunn 9 Months
Thomas McLean 44
Thomas Pattenden 34
George Parsons 38
Kate Parsons 30
George H Parsons 9
Mabel Parsons 7
Philip Penmon 40
Frank H Patience 20
Herbert C Pearson 19
Walter Piper 19
Henry Haywood Preston 19
Thomas Partridge 34

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 946; Folio: 25; Page: 10.

Katie

Katie Report 21 Nov 2012 16:34

Is it possible for someone to be on a census twice in the same year? because Thomas & Mary Watkins are the correct grandparents and it does say 12yrs old so he is the correct age but the presence of his sister in the census with with him his mother and the Long's Is correct too! - Help!!

Katie

Katie Report 21 Nov 2012 16:58

I think this one is most likely to be him as his wife to be lives at 96b Worcester road as a servant and it's the right occupations for him.
1901 Wales Census
about Hugh W Thomas
Name: Hugh W Thomas
Age in 1901: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales
29 Worcester Road, Brynmawr