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Lost on 1871 and 1861 census

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Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Nov 2012 12:42

I spent the best part of yesterday afternoon searching for William T. Chandler b. 1845 Devizes on 1861 and 1871 census but so far have not located him. William was married to Jessie (no surname) but not sure when. However their eldest child William Robert Chandler was born 1872 Paddington, London so would guess at around 1871. William T. Chandlers father was also a William born c1814 Devizes with wife Mary, also born Devizes. Have no idea when his parents married but William T. did have an elder brother George b. 1836. The occupation of these various Williams appears to be harness maker.

If anyone has a spare 10 mins and would be prepared to have a look to see if I am in need of a specsavers visit, I would be very grateful.

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:48

Which site did you use for the censuses?

And did you look for the marriage?

It will be on freebmd.......if it happened in England/Wales

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:49

Have you found the parents in 1861?

Potty

Potty Report 21 Nov 2012 12:50

Where were you searching? 1871 from Ancestry:

1871 England Census
about William Chandler
Name: William Chandler
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie Chandler
Gender: Male
Where born: Paddington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 2
Folio: 32
Page Number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
William Chandler 28
Jessie Chandler 26 b Scotland
George Brice 35 b Scotland, Lodger


Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:51

Are you sure about his birth year?

1851 England Census about William Chandler
Name: William Chandler
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Chandler
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 1466
Folio: 92
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
William Chandler 37
Mary Chandler 45
George Chandler 15
William Chandler 8

Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Nov 2012 12:52

Reggie - I used Ancestry for the census returns. I have the parents William and Mary on the 1851 census living Paddington but that is my only sight of them. The marriages I am busy looking for as we 'speak'. Thank you.

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:53

If you input the wrong birth year, no wonder you couldn't find him

1861 England Census

Name: William Chandler
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Chandler
Gender: Male
Where born: Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 178
Piece: 3
Folio: 160
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Chandler 53
Julia Chandler 29
William Chandler 18
Mary A Seary 7
Emily Battie 6 Months

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 12:54

1881 England Census

Name: Jessie Chander
[Jessie Chandler]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William T. Chander
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Fife, Scotland***********************************
Civil parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Barnsdale Rd

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St Mary Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 10
Folio: 37
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William T. Chander 39
Jessie Chander 40
William Chander 9
George Chander 7

Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2012 13:01

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 about Jessie Bruce
Name: Jessie Bruce
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1868
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 254 (click to see others on page)

Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Nov 2012 13:02

I have found the marriage of William Chandler to Jessie ?. The marriage took place Dec 1868 reg Kensington and gives Jessie's surname as BRUCE. The other William who married Mary - no marriage found as yet.

Potty - I am ecstatic here. I must be blind as I have been up and down like a fiddlers elbow looking for that. Thank you so much.

Reggie - that is the census I found and admit that I took the approximate year of birth from there. That is my only sighting of Wm/Mary up to now. Thank you

Margaret

Margaret Report 21 Nov 2012 13:03

Thank you everyone for helping me. I feel such an incompetent idiot now. What took you folk a matter of minutes took me most of the afternoon without progress. Thank you all again.

Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2012 13:04

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Chandler
Name: William Chandler
Spouse Name: Jessie Bruce
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 20 Dec 1868
Parish: Paddington Green St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

Potty

Potty Report 21 Nov 2012 13:04

The banns for the marriage (George on the 1871 looks like Bruce not Brice on the image):

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Chandler
Name: William Chandler
Spouse Name: Jessie Bruce
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 20 Dec 1868
Parish: Paddington Green St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Register

Helen

Helen Report 21 Nov 2012 13:05

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about William Chandley
Name: William Chandley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Age: 25
Spouse Name: Jessie Bruce
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Dec 1869
Parish: Paddington Green St Mary
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Chandley
Spouse Father Name: Robert Bruce
Register Type: Parish Register

Potty

Potty Report 21 Nov 2012 13:06

Possible for Jessie - NO, wrong father:

1851 Scotland Census
about Jessie Bruce
Name: Jessie Bruce
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William Bruce
Mother's Name: Jane Bruce
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 2 St Davids Lane
ED: 30
Page: 2 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 7
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_61
Household Members: Name Age
William Bruce 22
Jane Bruce 26
William Bruce 4
Jessie Bruce 3
Ann Bruce 11 Mo
Elizabeth Anderson 22
Margret Fanner 28


Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Nov 2012 14:04

Margaret

Don't beat yourself up..........we all have 'moments'

I wonder if you realise that when you find someone on Ancestry, the site gives you suggested 'links' for the person to the right of the record you are viewing

That's how I found him in 1861............ I located the family in 1851, then clicked on the child's name............and the 1861 for him was among those suggested by Ancestry

Of course, the difference in the birth year was also a factor.