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1 Dec 2012 10:06 |
Hannah Painter lived in Ashton in Makerfield, Lancs. UK and had siblings, some of whom lived in Lancashire At least one descendant was living in Bispham Lancs unto his death around the millennium.
Are there any more of the Painter clan who can tell me more ?
Thanks John Rigby (Great grandson of JR 1855)
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brummiejan
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1 Dec 2012 10:26 |
Hi Jon - welcome to the boards. The best thing to do first is to check to see if any other members share this family. It's unlikely they will see this posting. Go to search box above, and fill in any names you have in 'search all trees'. If you find matches you can contact the tree owner. Otherwise, if you are stuck, put a few more details - such as census info you have - and specify what info you are looking for. There are plenty of people on here who are happy to help out. Jan
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2012 10:32 |
Have you tried researching?
A good place to start would be.............
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
or.............
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
If you want info about HANNAH.....her birth year and birthplace are VITAL
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2012 10:32 |
You have stated that Hannah was John's wife..........
Please tell us when and where the marriage took place.
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2012 10:33 |
"At least one descendant was living in Bispham Lancs unto his death around the millennium."
Whose descendant?
You would find it beneficial to read the guidelines about how to post requests for help.
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2012 10:40 |
Guessing that this is the woman
1871 England Census
Name: Hanah Carriter [Hanah Painter] Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Peter Carriter Gender: Female Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Ashton in Makerfield Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Ashton in Makerfield ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 3898 Folio: 27 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Peter Carriter 60 Alice Carriter 25 Henry Carriter 23 Peter Carriter 21 Mary Carriter 19 Hanah Carriter 16 Elizabeth Carriter 4 John Henry Carriter 1
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Dec 2012 10:44 |
1861 England Census about Hannah Painter Name: Hannah Painter Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Peter Painter Mother's Name: Elizabeth Painter Gender: Female Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Holy Trinity Town: Ashton in Makerfield County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Ashton in Mackerfield ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 88 Piece: 2786 Folio: 30 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Peter Painter 53 Elizabeth Painter 46 Ellen Painter 18 Alice Painter 16 Henry Painter 14 Peter Painter 12 Mary Painter 10 Hannah Painter 7
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Dec 2012 10:49 |
1841 England Census about Peter Painter Name: Peter Painter Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil parish: Winwick Hundred: West Derby County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Wigan Sub-registration district: Ashton in Mackerfield Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 524 Book: 1 Folio: 22 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Peter Painter 30 Elizabeth Painter 25 Richard Painter 5 William Painter 2 Amie Painter 1
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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1 Dec 2012 10:52 |
spouse: Elisabeth child: Hannah Painter name: Hannah Painter gender: Female baptism/christening date: 24 Jul 1842 baptism/christening place: Winwick, Lancashire, England father's name: Peter Painter mother's name: Elisabeth indexing project (batch) number: C39679-6 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 1469065
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Kucinta
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1 Dec 2012 11:03 |
name: Hannah Painter gender: Female baptism/christening date: 02 Jan 1855 baptism/christening place: Ashton-in-Mackerfield, Lancashire, England birth date: 07 Oct 1854 birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: Peter Painter father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Betty Painter mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C00722-9 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1885658 reference number: yr 1844-1857 p 228
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Dea
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1 Dec 2012 11:36 |
Are you totally sure that he married Hannah Painter?
Do you have them together on any census after their marriage please?
What do you know of any children they might have had?
Dea x
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Dea
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1 Dec 2012 11:38 |
There is this marriage which I keep looking at?
Marriages Dec 1888 ????? HARRISON Mary Alice Prescot 8b 966 LEA Alfred Prescot 8b 966 Painter Ellen Prescot 8b 966 RIGBY John Prescot 8b 966
Dea x
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Dea
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1 Dec 2012 12:18 |
There is also a possible marriage for Hannah:
Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%) HEALD Frederic Wigan 8c 4 HEATON John Wigan 8c 4 LITTLER Hannah Wigan 8c 4 Littles Hannah Wigan 8c 4 Painter Hannah Wigan 8c 4
I have looked into both these couples on 1881 and either Hannah would fit well with the age of 'your's'
Dea x
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Barry
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1 Dec 2012 14:54 |
Hi Don't know whether you have seen this 1911 census, from an Ancestry tree One of Hannahs brothers, Peter born 1849 ,who married a Mary Ann Fairhurst 1873 Wigan
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&h=24013414&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&tid=7810353&tpid=1548578913&rhSource=7814
Barry
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2012 22:34 |
Barry
If you post the census, rather than the link, the thread will revert to its proper format
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ErikaH
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1 Dec 2012 22:40 |
I sent a PM to John asking him to return and respond to our questions.
He has read the message
I'm not looking for anything further on this until a response is forthcoming
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mgnv
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2 Dec 2012 00:58 |
Re-examining Mel's 1841 census using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ and http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
Baptism: 10 Apr 1836 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England Richard Heaton - 2nd Illegitimate Child and 2nd Son of Elizabeth Heaton Born: 17 Feb 1836 Abode: Seneley Green in Ashton Occupation: Weaver Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 202, Entry 1622 Source: LDS Film 1885658
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1838 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PAINTER William Ashton Wigan & Leigh HEATON ASHT/1/282
Baptism: 25 Dec 1838 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England William Painter - 1 Child and Son of Peter Painter & Betty Born: 27 Nov 1838 Abode: Garswood Gate in Ashton Occupation: Collier Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 273, Entry 2187 Source: LDS Film 1885658
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PAINTER Anne Ashton Wigan & Leigh HEATON ASHT/2/218
Baptism: 6 Dec 1840 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England Anne Painter - 2 Child 1 Daughter of Peter Painter & Elisabeth Born: 8 Nov 1840 Abode: Tithe Barn Hillock in Ashton Occupation: Collier Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 321, Entry 2574 Source: LDS Film 1885658
Maybe: Baptisms: 31 Jan 1835 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England William Heaton - 1 Illegitimate Child and Son of Elizabeth Heaton Born: 24 Dec 1834 Abode: Smock Alley in Ashton Occupation: Weaver Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 170, Entry 1361 Source: LDS Film 1885658
Burial: 4 Feb 1835 St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England William Heaton - Son of Betty Heaton Age: Infant Abode: Seneley Green in Ashton Cause of Death: Convulsions Buried by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton Register: Burials 1828 - 1842, Page 149, Entry 1188 Source: LDS Film 1885662
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference PAINTER Hannah Ashton Wigan & Leigh HEATON ASHT/8/287
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John
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8 Dec 2012 15:25 |
Many thanks to you all: Brummiejan, Reggie, Mel fairy godmother, Kucinta, Dea, Barry and mgnv
You gave me a great deal of useful info and new leads
I will make any further questions much more precise!
Well done John Rigby
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