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John Rigby(DOB 1855)'s wife Hannah Painter

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John

John Report 1 Dec 2012 10:06

Hannah Painter lived in Ashton in Makerfield, Lancs. UK and had siblings, some of whom lived in Lancashire
At least one descendant was living in Bispham Lancs unto his death around the millennium.

Are there any more of the Painter clan who can tell me more ?

Thanks
John Rigby (Great grandson of JR 1855)

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 1 Dec 2012 10:26

Hi Jon - welcome to the boards.
The best thing to do first is to check to see if any other members share this family. It's unlikely they will see this posting.
Go to search box above, and fill in any names you have in 'search all trees'. If you find matches you can contact the tree owner.
Otherwise, if you are stuck, put a few more details - such as census info you have - and specify what info you are looking for. There are plenty of people on here who are happy to help out.
Jan

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 10:32

Have you tried researching?

A good place to start would be.............

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

or.............

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

If you want info about HANNAH.....her birth year and birthplace are VITAL

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 10:32

You have stated that Hannah was John's wife..........

Please tell us when and where the marriage took place.

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 10:33

"At least one descendant was living in Bispham Lancs unto his death around the millennium."

Whose descendant?


You would find it beneficial to read the guidelines about how to post requests for help.

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 10:40

Guessing that this is the woman

1871 England Census

Name: Hanah Carriter
[Hanah Painter]
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter Carriter
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 3898
Folio: 27
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Carriter 60
Alice Carriter 25
Henry Carriter 23
Peter Carriter 21
Mary Carriter 19
Hanah Carriter 16
Elizabeth Carriter 4
John Henry Carriter 1

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Dec 2012 10:44

1861 England Census
about Hannah Painter
Name: Hannah Painter
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Peter Painter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Painter
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Ashton in Mackerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 2786
Folio: 30
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Painter 53
Elizabeth Painter 46
Ellen Painter 18
Alice Painter 16
Henry Painter 14
Peter Painter 12
Mary Painter 10
Hannah Painter 7


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Dec 2012 10:49

1841 England Census
about Peter Painter
Name: Peter Painter
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Winwick
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Ashton in Mackerfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 524
Book: 1
Folio: 22
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Painter 30
Elizabeth Painter 25
Richard Painter 5
William Painter 2
Amie Painter 1


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 1 Dec 2012 10:52

spouse: Elisabeth
child: Hannah Painter

name: Hannah Painter
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Jul 1842
baptism/christening place: Winwick, Lancashire, England
father's name: Peter Painter
mother's name: Elisabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C39679-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1469065

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 1 Dec 2012 11:03

name: Hannah Painter
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 02 Jan 1855
baptism/christening place: Ashton-in-Mackerfield, Lancashire, England
birth date: 07 Oct 1854
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Peter Painter
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Betty Painter
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00722-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1885658
reference number: yr 1844-1857 p 228

Dea

Dea Report 1 Dec 2012 11:36

Are you totally sure that he married Hannah Painter?

Do you have them together on any census after their marriage please?

What do you know of any children they might have had?

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 1 Dec 2012 11:38

There is this marriage which I keep looking at?

Marriages Dec 1888 ?????
HARRISON Mary Alice Prescot 8b 966
LEA Alfred Prescot 8b 966
Painter Ellen Prescot 8b 966
RIGBY John Prescot 8b 966

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 1 Dec 2012 12:18

There is also a possible marriage for Hannah:

Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
HEALD Frederic Wigan 8c 4
HEATON John Wigan 8c 4
LITTLER Hannah Wigan 8c 4
Littles Hannah Wigan 8c 4
Painter Hannah Wigan 8c 4

I have looked into both these couples on 1881 and either Hannah would fit well with the age of 'your's'

Dea x

Barry

Barry Report 1 Dec 2012 14:54

Hi
Don't know whether you have seen this 1911 census, from an Ancestry tree
One of Hannahs brothers, Peter born 1849 ,who married a Mary Ann Fairhurst 1873 Wigan

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1911England&h=24013414&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&tid=7810353&tpid=1548578913&rhSource=7814

Barry

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 22:34

Barry

If you post the census, rather than the link, the thread will revert to its proper format

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Dec 2012 22:40

I sent a PM to John asking him to return and respond to our questions.

He has read the message

I'm not looking for anything further on this until a response is forthcoming

mgnv

mgnv Report 2 Dec 2012 00:58

Re-examining Mel's 1841 census using http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ and http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Baptism: 10 Apr 1836 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Richard Heaton - 2nd Illegitimate Child and 2nd Son of Elizabeth Heaton
Born: 17 Feb 1836
Abode: Seneley Green in Ashton
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 202, Entry 1622
Source: LDS Film 1885658

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1838
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PAINTER William Ashton Wigan & Leigh HEATON ASHT/1/282

Baptism: 25 Dec 1838 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
William Painter - 1 Child and Son of Peter Painter & Betty
Born: 27 Nov 1838
Abode: Garswood Gate in Ashton
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 273, Entry 2187
Source: LDS Film 1885658

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PAINTER Anne Ashton Wigan & Leigh HEATON ASHT/2/218

Baptism: 6 Dec 1840 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Anne Painter - 2 Child 1 Daughter of Peter Painter & Elisabeth
Born: 8 Nov 1840
Abode: Tithe Barn Hillock in Ashton
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 321, Entry 2574
Source: LDS Film 1885658

Maybe:
Baptisms: 31 Jan 1835 Ashton Chapel, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
William Heaton - 1 Illegitimate Child and Son of Elizabeth Heaton
Born: 24 Dec 1834
Abode: Smock Alley in Ashton
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1844, Page 170, Entry 1361
Source: LDS Film 1885658

Burial: 4 Feb 1835 St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
William Heaton - Son of Betty Heaton
Age: Infant
Abode: Seneley Green in Ashton
Cause of Death: Convulsions
Buried by: Edmund Sibson Minister of Ashton
Register: Burials 1828 - 1842, Page 149, Entry 1188
Source: LDS Film 1885662



Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PAINTER Hannah Ashton Wigan & Leigh HEATON ASHT/8/287

John

John Report 8 Dec 2012 15:25

Many thanks to you all: Brummiejan, Reggie, Mel fairy godmother, Kucinta, Dea, Barry and mgnv

You gave me a great deal of useful info and new leads

I will make any further questions much more precise!

Well done
John Rigby