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1891 Census onwards Please

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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 7 Dec 2012 21:04

For this young man.

1881 Census for reference:

Name: Alexander Orr
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann Orr
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 21 Golden Alley
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: General Laborer Unemployed
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: West Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5002
Folio: 76
Page Number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Orr 60
Alexander Orr 18

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Dec 2012 21:05

1891 England Census
about Alexander Orr
Name: Alexander Orr
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie Orr
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4143
Folio: 51
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Orr 28
Jessie Orr 29
Hannah W Orr 2
Jessie A Orr 5/12



Andy

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 7 Dec 2012 21:06

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Alexander Orr
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1896
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 380

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Dec 2012 21:08

Jessie remarried

1901 England Census
about Jessie Ann Orr
Name: Jessie Ann Orr
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Jessie Anderson
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland Holy Trinity
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 4719
Folio: 59
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Anderson 47
Jessie Anderson 39
Robert Anderson 12
John G Anderson 11
Bertha Anderson 11 Mo
Hannah Mary Orr 14
Jessie Ann Orr 13


Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Dec 2012 21:17

Jessie in the 1911 census:-

1911 census transcription details for: 9 Old Grey St Sunderland

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN30200 RG78PN1741 RD555 SD2 ED19 SN89
Reg. District: Sunderland
Sub District: Sunderland East
Parish: Sunderland
Enum. District: 19

Address: 9 Old Grey St Sunderland
County: Durham

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

ANDERSON, Thomas Head Married M 56 1855 General Labourer Out Of Work Durham Sunderland
ANDERSON, Jessie Wife Married 11 years F 56 1855 Durham Sunderland
ANDERSON, John Son M 20 1891 General Labourer Out Of Work Durham Sunderland
ANDERSON, Bertha Daughter F 10 1901 School Durham Sunderland
ANDERSON, Jane Daughter F 7 1904 Durham Sunderland
ORR, Hannah Stepdaughter F 22 1889 Durham Sunderland
ORR, Jessie Stepdaughter F 20 1891 Rope Spinner Cravens Ropery Durham Sunderland

2 children born to the marriage and both still living. Son John must be Thomas's son by his first marriage.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 7 Dec 2012 21:19

Alexander's marriage to Jessie:-

Name: ORR, Alexander
Registration district: Sunderland
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1881
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 861
MarriageFinder: Alexander Orr married one of the following people:

LAMB, Lydia
LINTON, Jessie<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
CHAPMAN, Thomas
----------

Jessie's second marriage:-

Name: ORR, Jessie
Registration district: Sunderland
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1900
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 828

MarriageFinder: Jessie Orr married one of the following people:

GLANCY, Mary Ann
ANDERSON, Thomas<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
CAMPBELL, Henry William

Kath. x

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 7 Dec 2012 21:46

Thank you!

Also looking for 2 of Alexander's ORR's possible brothers.

Samuel Orr born 1850 - North Shields, Durham. Last have him in 1851 living at home, working as a Paint Manufacturer

William Orr born 1858 - Sunderland, Durham. ?Have him in 1881 Census aboard the ship 'Dorcas' in Gravesend saying he's married.

There was also Edward born 1853, but he appears to die in 1876 and he's at home in 1871, working as a General Labourer.

Thanks in anticipation.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Dec 2012 21:49

Hi Joy - North Shields isn't in Durham.

Do you mean South Shields which IS in Durham, or North Shields which was then in Northumberland? (We're fussy up North!!)

Also, if Samuel was born in 1850 then they must have been very harsh parents putting him to work in 1851. Could you confirm the dates?

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Dec 2012 21:54

1881 England Census
about Samuel Orr
Name: Samuel Orr
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marian Orr
Gender: Male
Where born: North Shields

Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: 28 Clyde Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Mariner

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4995
Folio: 45
Page Number: 84
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Orr 30
Marian Orr 28
John R. Orr 8
Samuel Orr 6
William Orr 4
Marian Orr 2
Alexander Orr
John Walker 60


Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Dec 2012 21:55

1891 England Census
about Samuel Orr
Name: Samuel Orr
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marian Orr
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ignatius
Town: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12d
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4138
Folio: 38
Page Number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Orr 40
Marian Orr 38
John E Orr 18
Samuel Orr 16
William Orr 14
Marian Orr 12
Alexander Orr 10
Jessie Orr 8
Edith M Orr 6
Arthur W Orr 3
Joseph Orr 2
John Walker 70


Andy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Dec 2012 21:56

Posting the 1861 (mis-transcribed) for reference:

OHR, Samuel Head Married M 39 1822 Seaman Scotland
OHR, Ann Wife Married F 40 1821 Sunderland, Durham
OHR, Samuel Son M 11 1850 Labourer At A Paint Manufacturer North Shields, Northumberland
OHR, Edward Son M 8 1853 Bishopwearmouth, Durham
OHR, William Son M 3 1858 Sunderland, Durham

Piece: 3779 Folio: 48 Page: 24
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Sunderland
Municipal Borough: Sunderland

Address: 35, Spring Garden Lane, Sunderland County: Durham

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 7 Dec 2012 21:57

Hi Marie.

No idea, I'm just going by what's been written on the Census. This family is possible part of hubby's ancestry. Trying to piece things together so we can look into what happened to who. Hubby was born in Nottingham but his Great-Grandmother was born in Sunderland. No-one in the family knows anything beyond Hubby's Grandparents, so I'm kind of working blind,

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Dec 2012 21:57

1901 England Census
about Samuel Orr
Name: Samuel Orr
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marion Orr
Gender: Male
Where born: No Shields, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: Hendon St Ignatius the Martyr
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Piece: 4713
Folio: 179
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Orr 48
Marion Orr 46
John E Orr 28
Samuel Orr 26
Jessie Orr 18
Edith M Orr 16
Arthur Orr 13
Joseph Orr 12
James S Orr 9
Margaret A Orr 3
John Walker 82




Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 7 Dec 2012 22:00

1911 England Census
about Samuel Orr
Name: Samuel Orr
Age in 1911: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 11 Marion Street, Sunderland
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dock Waterman
Registration district: Sunderland
Registration District Number: 555
Sub-registration district: Sunderland East
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 30189
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Orr 59
Marion Orr 57
Jessie Orr 25
Edith Mary Orr 23
Joseph Orr 22
James Stanley Orr 19
Margaret Ann Orr 13
William Henry Craggs


12 Children born 9 living

Andy

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Dec 2012 22:10

Might this be William in 1891?

ORR, William Head Married M 35 1856 Seaman Sunderland, Co Durham
ORR, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1857 Sunderland, Co Durham
ORR, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 15 1876 Sunderland, Co Durham
ORR, Mary Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1879 Sunderland, Co Durham
ORR, Ruth Daughter F 6 1885 Sunderland, Co Durham

Piece: 4144 Folio: 59 Page: 54
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Sunderland
Municipal Borough: Sunderland

Address: 1, Burleigh Street, Sunderland County: Durham

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Dec 2012 22:17

Could be, Elizabeth is without her husband in 1881. A fireman could be on a ship:

ORR, Elizabeth Head Widow F 25 1856 Firemans Wife Sunderland, Durham
ORR, Sarah Ann Single F 5 1876 Scholar Sunderland, Durham

Piece: 5000 Folio: 99 Page: 15
Registration District: Sunderland
Civil Parish: Sunderland

Address: 18, Vine Street, Sunderland County: Durham

NOTE: There are two errors, Elizabeth is NOT a widow, there is just a squiggle. Secondly, they've missed off daughter Mary Elizabeth age 1 born Sunderland

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 7 Dec 2012 22:50

Thanks people, that looks like a good possibility for William. Lots to be checked out and verified there.