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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Dec 2012 21:04 |
For this young man.
1881 Census for reference:
Name: Alexander Orr Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Ann Orr Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 21 Golden Alley Education:
Employment status:
Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: General Laborer Unemployed Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: West Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5002 Folio: 76 Page Number: 63 Household Members: Name Age Ann Orr 60 Alexander Orr 18
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7 Dec 2012 21:05 |
1891 England Census about Alexander Orr Name: Alexander Orr Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jessie Orr Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland Town: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4143 Folio: 51 Page Number: 25 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Orr 28 Jessie Orr 29 Hannah W Orr 2 Jessie A Orr 5/12
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7 Dec 2012 21:06 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 Name: Alexander Orr Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1896 Age at Death: 34 Registration district: Sunderland Inferred County: Durham Volume: 10a Page: 380
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Andrew
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7 Dec 2012 21:08 |
Jessie remarried
1901 England Census about Jessie Ann Orr Name: Jessie Ann Orr Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's Name: Jessie Anderson Gender: Female Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: Sunderland Holy Trinity Town: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 206 Piece: 4719 Folio: 59 Page Number: 31 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Anderson 47 Jessie Anderson 39 Robert Anderson 12 John G Anderson 11 Bertha Anderson 11 Mo Hannah Mary Orr 14 Jessie Ann Orr 13 Andy
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KathleenBell
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7 Dec 2012 21:17 |
Jessie in the 1911 census:-
1911 census transcription details for: 9 Old Grey St Sunderland
National Archive Reference: RG14PN30200 RG78PN1741 RD555 SD2 ED19 SN89 Reg. District: Sunderland Sub District: Sunderland East Parish: Sunderland Enum. District: 19
Address: 9 Old Grey St Sunderland County: Durham
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
ANDERSON, Thomas Head Married M 56 1855 General Labourer Out Of Work Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Jessie Wife Married 11 years F 56 1855 Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, John Son M 20 1891 General Labourer Out Of Work Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Bertha Daughter F 10 1901 School Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Jane Daughter F 7 1904 Durham Sunderland ORR, Hannah Stepdaughter F 22 1889 Durham Sunderland ORR, Jessie Stepdaughter F 20 1891 Rope Spinner Cravens Ropery Durham Sunderland
2 children born to the marriage and both still living. Son John must be Thomas's son by his first marriage.
Kath. x
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7 Dec 2012 21:19 |
Alexander's marriage to Jessie:-
Name: ORR, Alexander Registration district: Sunderland County: Durham Year of registration: 1881 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 10A Page no: 861 MarriageFinder: Alexander Orr married one of the following people:
LAMB, Lydia LINTON, Jessie<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< CHAPMAN, Thomas ----------
Jessie's second marriage:-
Name: ORR, Jessie Registration district: Sunderland County: Durham Year of registration: 1900 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 10A Page no: 828
MarriageFinder: Jessie Orr married one of the following people:
GLANCY, Mary Ann ANDERSON, Thomas<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< CAMPBELL, Henry William
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Dec 2012 21:46 |
Thank you!
Also looking for 2 of Alexander's ORR's possible brothers.
Samuel Orr born 1850 - North Shields, Durham. Last have him in 1851 living at home, working as a Paint Manufacturer
William Orr born 1858 - Sunderland, Durham. ?Have him in 1881 Census aboard the ship 'Dorcas' in Gravesend saying he's married.
There was also Edward born 1853, but he appears to die in 1876 and he's at home in 1871, working as a General Labourer.
Thanks in anticipation.
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MarieCeleste
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7 Dec 2012 21:49 |
Hi Joy - North Shields isn't in Durham.
Do you mean South Shields which IS in Durham, or North Shields which was then in Northumberland? (We're fussy up North!!)
Also, if Samuel was born in 1850 then they must have been very harsh parents putting him to work in 1851. Could you confirm the dates?
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Andrew
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7 Dec 2012 21:54 |
1881 England Census about Samuel Orr Name: Samuel Orr Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Marian Orr Gender: Male Where born: North Shields Civil parish: Bishopwearmouth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 28 Clyde Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Mariner Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4995 Folio: 45 Page Number: 84 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Orr 30 Marian Orr 28 John R. Orr 8 Samuel Orr 6 William Orr 4 Marian Orr 2 Alexander Orr John Walker 60 Andy
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7 Dec 2012 21:55 |
1891 England Census about Samuel Orr Name: Samuel Orr Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Marian Orr Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Bishop Wearmouth Ecclesiastical parish: St Ignatius Town: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 12d Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4138 Folio: 38 Page Number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Orr 40 Marian Orr 38 John E Orr 18 Samuel Orr 16 William Orr 14 Marian Orr 12 Alexander Orr 10 Jessie Orr 8 Edith M Orr 6 Arthur W Orr 3 Joseph Orr 2 John Walker 70 Andy
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MarieCeleste
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7 Dec 2012 21:56 |
Posting the 1861 (mis-transcribed) for reference:
OHR, Samuel Head Married M 39 1822 Seaman Scotland OHR, Ann Wife Married F 40 1821 Sunderland, Durham OHR, Samuel Son M 11 1850 Labourer At A Paint Manufacturer North Shields, Northumberland OHR, Edward Son M 8 1853 Bishopwearmouth, Durham OHR, William Son M 3 1858 Sunderland, Durham
Piece: 3779 Folio: 48 Page: 24 Registration District: Sunderland Civil Parish: Sunderland Municipal Borough: Sunderland
Address: 35, Spring Garden Lane, Sunderland County: Durham
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Dec 2012 21:57 |
Hi Marie.
No idea, I'm just going by what's been written on the Census. This family is possible part of hubby's ancestry. Trying to piece things together so we can look into what happened to who. Hubby was born in Nottingham but his Great-Grandmother was born in Sunderland. No-one in the family knows anything beyond Hubby's Grandparents, so I'm kind of working blind,
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7 Dec 2012 21:57 |
1901 England Census about Samuel Orr Name: Samuel Orr Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Marion Orr Gender: Male Where born: No Shields, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: Hendon St Ignatius the Martyr County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Piece: 4713 Folio: 179 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Orr 48 Marion Orr 46 John E Orr 28 Samuel Orr 26 Jessie Orr 18 Edith M Orr 16 Arthur Orr 13 Joseph Orr 12 James S Orr 9 Margaret A Orr 3 John Walker 82
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7 Dec 2012 22:00 |
1911 England Census about Samuel Orr Name: Samuel Orr Age in 1911: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: North Shields, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 11 Marion Street, Sunderland Marital Status: Married Occupation: Dock Waterman Registration district: Sunderland Registration District Number: 555 Sub-registration district: Sunderland East ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 30189 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Orr 59 Marion Orr 57 Jessie Orr 25 Edith Mary Orr 23 Joseph Orr 22 James Stanley Orr 19 Margaret Ann Orr 13 William Henry Craggs 12 Children born 9 living
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MarieCeleste
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7 Dec 2012 22:10 |
Might this be William in 1891?
ORR, William Head Married M 35 1856 Seaman Sunderland, Co Durham ORR, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1857 Sunderland, Co Durham ORR, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 15 1876 Sunderland, Co Durham ORR, Mary Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1879 Sunderland, Co Durham ORR, Ruth Daughter F 6 1885 Sunderland, Co Durham
Piece: 4144 Folio: 59 Page: 54 Registration District: Sunderland Civil Parish: Sunderland Municipal Borough: Sunderland
Address: 1, Burleigh Street, Sunderland County: Durham
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MarieCeleste
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7 Dec 2012 22:17 |
Could be, Elizabeth is without her husband in 1881. A fireman could be on a ship:
ORR, Elizabeth Head Widow F 25 1856 Firemans Wife Sunderland, Durham ORR, Sarah Ann Single F 5 1876 Scholar Sunderland, Durham
Piece: 5000 Folio: 99 Page: 15 Registration District: Sunderland Civil Parish: Sunderland
Address: 18, Vine Street, Sunderland County: Durham
NOTE: There are two errors, Elizabeth is NOT a widow, there is just a squiggle. Secondly, they've missed off daughter Mary Elizabeth age 1 born Sunderland
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Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*
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7 Dec 2012 22:50 |
Thanks people, that looks like a good possibility for William. Lots to be checked out and verified there.
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